Joe, this one with some certainty could be the same maker or workshop. It's obviously unfinished.
With 38,5 a quite sturdy blade, my feeling ist East Java. It's surely not Magetan, yet resembles one in the hand, and Magetan had Yogya roots.
Pre- or after WWII? I don't know. Are there other workshops in East Java besides Magetan, where Keris making didn't stop after WWII? Where?
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