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Old 22nd November 2012, 08:00 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by Bangkaya
Sajen,
Interesting piece you have there. It looks all original to me including the scabbard. At first glance, most would think it looks like a typical scabbard from Luzon, but in fact it is purely Ilonggo with the goat skin tapered toe. Plus, the metal banding is typical Ilonggo style, something not done among the Tagalogs. It could possibly be from Antique, but rarely are scabbards are this form there.

As to what to call your sword you are correct in all aspects except it isn't a sanduko (I'll get to that later.) First of all, this sword is from Iloilo, Panay. It has an unusual carved figural anito head. Not the more common traditional "bakunawa" form or the true bakunawa form, but still a figural anito head pommel. To answer Battara's question, no this is not an older form. Generally, Ilonggo swords have greater lattitude in their carvings of figural pommels than the other regions of Panay. Some may carve their pommels in a more traditional manner or more abstract interpretation of "bakunawa." And then you have other figural depictions such as a true bakunawa or even other demons and deities of Filipino mythology, which is why I use the term anito. But even with the various types of figural pommel carving, the proportions of an Ilonggo sword hilt remains relatively constant in relation to the sword as a whole. A proportion which is slightly different to the other regions of Panay (with the exception to Antique.) In Aklan and Capiz, the pommel heads are smaller, but they have larger and longer noses.

Also, look at the ferrule. Ilonggo swords will always have a ferrule of some type of metal or at least a binding at the hilt where it meets the blade. Also, the lack of a handguard of some type is an Ilonggo trait. Though they are commonly seen with various types of handguards whether just plain round discs, s-guards, d-guards, etc., they are commonly found with no guards at all. The same can be said of swords from Antique. Sandukos from Capiz will always have a guard as will the talibungs from Aklan. Aklanon swords will not have a ferrule at all unless it is a fully or semi-full sapot variety or if the the hilt is carved of carabao and lacks a guard (which is really rare and usually found in the coastal regions.)

Finally, look at the blade itself. In general, the swords in Aklan and Capiz will have narrower bevels. Swords from Iloilo and Antique will have much wider bevels. As for blade shape and proportions, this is where it really gets confusing. The variety of different types and shapes of sword blades are more varied in Iloilo and the reason for this is the more varied blade fighting styles found in that region. There are general names for these different blade types; some names still exist where others have been lost in time. In general, most swords in Iloilo will fall under the blanket term of binangon. Although most people here would consider the "binangon" as the sword shape with the sheepsfoot type blade, the correct term for that would be ginunting. Binangon is also used for the term of their work bolo which commonly has that sheepsfoot blade type. A blade with a clipped point is usually called a talibong or if the blade is slender, pinuti. In Aklan and Antique, the general name for a sword is talibong/talibung. In Capiz it is Sanduko. In Aklan there are 4 general blade forms: linamay, bakatong, kinampit, and ginunting. But these are all considered talibung and the blades are usually longer than in the other provinces. In Capiz, the sanduko is a specific sword. It is almost identical to an Aklanon talibung with a bakatong blade, but the blade is shorter and much broader. There's also minute stylistic differences that only a trained eye will spot.

So what do we call your sword? Tenegre? Since you're not and Ilonggo or even from Panay (I assume) that would be a correct term and it does have a figural pommel. Binangon? Well it is a sword from Iloilo so that is correct, too. Talibong? It does have a clipped point so that is correct as well. Pinuti? The blade is slender enough so you can call it that, too. and Sanduko? NO...this sword is not from Capiz and doesn't have any traits of a sanduko.

I hope this helps if not confuses.

Regards,
Bangkaya
Hello Bangkaya,

thank you very much for your detailed remarks. You have a real great knowledge and (I am sure not only I am) I am glad that you have found your way to this forum. And yes, it helps very much and only confused by my first reading.
Interestingly are you thinking that the goat skin tapered toe is original to the scabbard while I was positive about that it was later local repair or add on.

Any thoughts about the age from it?

BTW, you're correct, I am not from the Philippines, I am german.

Best regards,

Detlef

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