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Originally Posted by Zifir
hi,
ward is right, the first word is erzurum, the second line is Amel-i Kevork (swordmaker Kevork) Maybe I misspelled it but it's an Armenian name for sure.
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Ward, Zifhir,
I am very grateful for the translation.
This certainly raises a few more questions, especially the Armenian context as the blade shows etching to the forte that I have seen specifically on Armenian knives....this translation conclusion makes me think a lot more about what I have here and more so how it all came to be historically, further insight is appreciated.
I may also explore the content I removed in post number 3, this was based around Armenian Shashka embellishment being similar to Dagestan...can't remember where I read it off the top of my head...
It was also about the name Erzurum and despite the treaties in place within Erzurum and the city being very diverse in culture, how Christian and Muslim craftsmen interacted in instances such as this instance appears to be, more so during the later age that this Shashka appears to be of....or for the uninitiated like me... was this of no concern to many despite certain instances pre 1900, I ask as I beleive this piece is approx 1910???
There are some sensitive aspects to this side of investigation so I will tread cautiously and where other threads have gone astray, ask those conributing to just consider the sword and aspects attached to it, not specific events to err on the side of sensitivity..
Lots of questions I know but Shashka really are not being explored within these pages very often I think it would be interesting to note some of this "cross pollenation" as I do not speak the tongue or even know to any extent the of written languages across these regions...this is proving to be interesting.
I have again been reading Miller's book and clearly see on page 237, figure 151 a Dagestan Shashka with the same coloured velvet, certainly another aspect to ponder...Was this one recovered in direct style and materail found originally on this Shashka??? Maybe???
I'll get those better images to compare stortly too.
Best regards guys
Gav