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					Originally Posted by Matchlock
					
				 
				Actually, the first photo was taken at the Koninklijk Museum van het Leger en de Krijgsgeschiedenis, Brussels. 
The three wrought iron tiller stock haquebuts/stick guns range among the earliest and were made in ca. 1430-50. 
 
Michael 
			
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 Sorry i miss with first photo  

 What do you thin about last photo? It is about 1490 ?