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					Originally Posted by Rick
					
				 
				I thought we were dealing with an aspect of pawakan here ..    
Is this angle socio-political in nature ?  
			
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 Dear Rick,
I think the "pawakan" had a special intention -- regarding the attitude of the owner. Or maybe 'socio-political in nature' according to your term  if you consider too Pak Djeno's experience..
Anyway, I am very sorry Rick, to use your thread for other topic. I just mean it to clarify what Alan has said on Yogyakarta...
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