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Old 3rd July 2009, 06:01 AM   #33
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Originally Posted by ferrylaki
Pak Ganjawulung, I'm wondering why you did not give any comment on my keris age. do you afraid of hurting my feeling when you gonna say "you've been tricked again by the keris dealer" . You know well that I really dont care about it. I do have a new strategy dealing with keris dealers. So don't you worry about it. I'm now collecting keris directly from its source. I simply collect keris from people whom keris are not threated well. people who do not apreciated keris as it should be. people who do not want to keep keris in their house. Off course with the help of my dearest mother.
Dear Ferry,
I did give you my comment already. And it has already 'trespassing the old pakem' of perkerisan by -- (1) never say not-good thing to someone's keris, although not yet (2) 'ninthing' (tinging, knocking the blade in order to hear the tinging sound of the blade)...

Anyway, someday I hope we'll meet somewhere. Don't forget to bring your kerises...

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Originally Posted by ferrylaki
I just open Mr.Haryono book and find that the Pasopati keris was estimated as tangguh PB IX. then I remember what Alan said about:

I have in my possession a copy of the Pakem that was prepared by Ngabei Sawikromo for Pakubuwana IX, completed in 1792 (Jawa). PB IX reigned from 1831 to 1893.

This earlier Surakarta Pakem defines a dhapur pasopati as having a ron dha nunut.


I'm now understand that the book 'dhapur' is simply determine the pakem in PB X era and for the keris before PB X era, it has different ricikan.
Mmmm, no comment on this. I don't even bother what dhapur it is. What I know is, that this "lar gangsir" keris is really a masterpiece I've seen, and that the keris was not made by a mediocre villageois Empu, nor recent Surakartan Empu. I've handled it in my hand once...

Like appreciating paintings. Appreciation cannot merely come through bundles of old books. Sometimes, you must look carefully and thoroughly the masterpieces. Some other (royal) masterpieces in the past are astonishing too. (Lucky, Gusti Poeger had permitted to look at a tiny them, in Sasana Poesaka, a year before karaton was on fire couple years ago). Some of the masterpieces are "di luar pakem". .

One of the astonishing masterpiece I've seen was, a beautiful 'keleng' (pamorless) keris with PB style, with relief of 'goddess in kemben' (kneeling goddes in traditional dress) with only minimal touch of gold kinatah... I don't even know what dhapur it should be. Nyi Lara Kidoel? Just beautiful. This keris now is in a bank locker in Jakarta....

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