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Old 5th May 2009, 03:34 PM   #4
Jim McDougall
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Hi Michael,
Thanks for the kind words and note on Schloss Pappenheim, and it truly is interesting that this actually is a location there. Is the schloss someplace that is set up for historical viewing, possibly a museum?

It seems interesting how much influence there was between the Continent and England, and it seems that during the English Civil Wars there was a great deal of equipment besides obviously the swords, used by the forces involved. If I am not mistaken, the 'lobster tail' helmets were of Continental influence, and I believe a number of them were German.

It would be interesting to learn more on when the term 'pappenheimer' actually entered the arms lexicon referring to this type hilt. It does seem to have arisen colloquially in some degree, much as the term was applied by the Count to the reliability of his troops. Perhaps the term itself may have been applied in the same sense to the reliability of German made swords, and somehow become affixed to this hilt style.

It seems there are quite a number of these type terms applied to edged weapons, and might be interesting to develop a thread on a glossary with some etymology and history.

All the best,
Jim
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