... hopefully it is relevant to what you want to know. Please, watch this "debus" or "debus banten" -- which is vastly practized in Banten, West Jawa.
Even the television presenter "shows" the debus practice... According to the interview, "debus is not a black magic power. But part of their self defense...
View this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhQki...eature=related
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