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Old 8th December 2008, 09:32 PM   #10
A. G. Maisey
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Sorry Michel.

No.

This question has come up time and time and time and time again.

It is absolutely impossible to give useable, worthwhile information about the tangguh system of classification using print and photographs as the medium.

In my opinion it simply cannot be done.

You need close personal instruction over an extended period of time.

If you go to my site you will find a short explanation of tangguh, and at the present time this is probably all I am prepared to try to impart about it. If I started to try to explain how to apply it, any attempted explanation would only create confusion.

Similarly, you have asked me what tangguh I think this keris of Semar's might be.

From a photo I am not prepared to guess. There are several possibilities, and it would be a waste of time and misleading to enumerate them.

I can say with some certainty what it definitely is not, I cannot say with any certainty what it may be.

Bear this in mind:- tangguh is essentially an opinion, however, if one gives that opinion, one must be able to support the opinion with reasoned argument. In most cases, this cannot be done from a photograph.

The other thing to bear in mind is this:- the tangguh system was developed to apply to a particular class of keris, and for a particular reason. Over time it has become popular to try to give every blade a tangguh classification, no matter what the quality or condition of that blade may be.

The further we move away from very high quality blades made by very competent makers, according to quite rigid standards, the more the opinion of the applicable tangguh is open to question.
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