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					Originally Posted by baganing_balyan
					
				 you really think i have a shallow understanding of the subject I am interested in?
 I have even been trying to find the etymology of gonjo for years now.  do you know something about it?
 
 it's not my style to use something i don't understand.
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 What i am saying is that if you knew that katik was basically the same as gonjo why not just say so. 
 
 
Gonjo is a Javanese word. You need to look there. Mr. Maisey could probably tell you more about it that i.  
