This type of ( forcingly political ) issues is allways amazing ... to give them a sporty name
Allways all parties trying to "bleech" the whatever raised examples to make their interests more benignous that those of the others, expelling any possible remorse from their own scene
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It's a bit like discussing the sex of virgins, as we say over here
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Eveybody sacks everything from everybody, as everybody sells everything to everybody; it's all a matter of context.
This is a dog world, that has allways been ruled by the law of the strongest.
As for collectors being the nice guys in the story, it depends on what they collect; there are even collectors of nations
