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Gonzalo G · 19th January 2008, 02:11 AM

On the other side, I think the presence of the haladie in Sudan must be dated before of the Mahdi rebellion, as Egerton made his studies about those weapons before that time. It could be related to the time of the construction of the Suez Canal, but I don´t know if the coolies from India bring that kind of influences to Africa, or the influences came from another path. This only speculation, but I dont know the reach and level of all the indian people who went to that construction. I can only be sure of the presence of the most basic level of handworkers. Of course, I can be wrong, and if somebody has better information, please feel free to post.

Neverthless, and as Jim noted to me, "Egerton wrote in 1880, prior to the fall of Khartoum, but did revise his catalog some years later after British campaigns in the Sudan and in fact those revisions do include certain Sudanese weapons." So, the question still remains open: from what time period, and from what means, the indian influence began to be felt in the Sudan arsenal, and the first haladies begin to appear?

My best regards

Gonzalo

19th January 2008, 02:11 AM	#1
Gonzalo G Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Nothern Mexico Posts: 458	On the other side, I think the presence of the haladie in Sudan must be dated before of the Mahdi rebellion, as Egerton made his studies about those weapons before that time. It could be related to the time of the construction of the Suez Canal, but I don´t know if the coolies from India bring that kind of influences to Africa, or the influences came from another path. This only speculation, but I dont know the reach and level of all the indian people who went to that construction. I can only be sure of the presence of the most basic level of handworkers. Of course, I can be wrong, and if somebody has better information, please feel free to post. Neverthless, and as Jim noted to me, "Egerton wrote in 1880, prior to the fall of Khartoum, but did revise his catalog some years later after British campaigns in the Sudan and in fact those revisions do include certain Sudanese weapons." So, the question still remains open: from what time period, and from what means, the indian influence began to be felt in the Sudan arsenal, and the first haladies begin to appear? My best regards Gonzalo Last edited by Gonzalo G; 19th January 2008 at 08:09 AM.