Quote:
	
	
		| 
			
				 
					Originally Posted by Newsteel
					
				 
				Patrem keris may not be necessarily for a woman. It could also meant for a young boy (age 7-12 yrs old). 
			
		 | 
	
	
 You are right, Newsteel,
In Javanese villages, dhukun (practitioners) also use patrem, or even smaller than patrem (amulet-keris). It is more difficult to find good patrems than good kerises. And the specific accessories for patrem, are also rare. Old patrem's hilts, are seldom. And also the mendhak...