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ganjawulung · 20th May 2007, 07:38 AM

Excentric,

Your hilt is unordinary, may be you can call it "naga melilit" (I don't know the right English word for a naga which rounded its victim). Whether you could or you coudn't use it for keris hilt, it depends on your Marco.

As far as I know, in Javanese people got used to unordinary things. So they cultivate also "unordinary form or art of making hilt" too. Either pornographic, extraordinary in size, decoration. All of them are classified as "ukiran kalawijan".

Kalawija itself has some other meanings too. A man with unordinary posture (too short, too tall) or dwarves, they are used to be called as "kalawija". Even in Javanese courts like Yogyakarta and also Surakarta, their kings used to employ such unordinary people, and those people beared name as: "abdi dalem kalawijan" or servants with unordinary physical condition. According to Javanese belief (pls correct me anyone, if I'm wrong), if you maintain and employing "kalawijan people", will get fortune..

Look at the keris' world too. They have also dhapur with "kalawija" style. You may classify, all the keris luks (curved keris) more than 13 luks, called "keris kalawijan". Just mention, keris luk with kalawija style for instance: (1) dhapur "raga wilah" with 15 luks, (2) dhapur "trisirah" with 21 luks, (3) dhapur "kala tinantang" with 21 luks too, (4) dhapur "kala lunga" with 23 luks. I have one kalawija keris too, named "kala bendhu" with 29 luks. Although with so many luks, but still have a certain beauty -- in the eyes of the behorder.

So, kalawija style, believed to suit for "kalawijan people". Mad person, also classified as this category. Though a very prominent "seniman" or artist, may also called as "kalawijan". Excentric person, with a very strong personality (either positive or negative, may be called as "kalawijan")

So Marco, if you want to use your "naga melilit" hilt, probably it is suitable for keris naga with kalawijan-luks. I don't find any dhapur "naga kalawija" yet until now.

20th May 2007, 07:38 AM	#6
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	Naga Melilit Excentric, Your hilt is unordinary, may be you can call it "naga melilit" (I don't know the right English word for a naga which rounded its victim). Whether you could or you coudn't use it for keris hilt, it depends on your Marco. As far as I know, in Javanese people got used to unordinary things. So they cultivate also "unordinary form or art of making hilt" too. Either pornographic, extraordinary in size, decoration. All of them are classified as "ukiran kalawijan". Kalawija itself has some other meanings too. A man with unordinary posture (too short, too tall) or dwarves, they are used to be called as "kalawija". Even in Javanese courts like Yogyakarta and also Surakarta, their kings used to employ such unordinary people, and those people beared name as: "abdi dalem kalawijan" or servants with unordinary physical condition. According to Javanese belief (pls correct me anyone, if I'm wrong), if you maintain and employing "kalawijan people", will get fortune.. Look at the keris' world too. They have also dhapur with "kalawija" style. You may classify, all the keris luks (curved keris) more than 13 luks, called "keris kalawijan". Just mention, keris luk with kalawija style for instance: (1) dhapur "raga wilah" with 15 luks, (2) dhapur "trisirah" with 21 luks, (3) dhapur "kala tinantang" with 21 luks too, (4) dhapur "kala lunga" with 23 luks. I have one kalawija keris too, named "kala bendhu" with 29 luks. Although with so many luks, but still have a certain beauty -- in the eyes of the behorder. So, kalawija style, believed to suit for "kalawijan people". Mad person, also classified as this category. Though a very prominent "seniman" or artist, may also called as "kalawijan". Excentric person, with a very strong personality (either positive or negative, may be called as "kalawijan") So Marco, if you want to use your "naga melilit" hilt, probably it is suitable for keris naga with kalawijan-luks. I don't find any dhapur "naga kalawija" yet until now.