Hi Michael
........Ben, sorry but I disagree that floral motifs are decorative only.
It's one of the oldest, universal symbols of the cycle of birth/life and death.
Michael[/QUOTE]...........
I mean that they are not talismanic signs floral motifs
I mean something like this
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=peduang
To me talismanic signs are witchcraft signs to give you power protect you
in indonesian it is called goena goena in Suriname Winti in Jamaica or Haiti Voodoo it is mostly based on
The Use off white and black power
And I see nothing off that in the symbols off the keris
There are books that have those symbols.
Ben