Thanks for your opinions! 
 
 "wolviex quote" Second, and most important, the image with hilt downside is the proper side! Take a look at the most of the European swords, and blades inscriptions, including crosses (i.e. Hungarian ones) - with your theory every one of them would be satanic, upside down!" 
 
 
Fascinating! I though the referance was which way things were on the scabbard ,  Ive always seen motifs the opposite way to those on the blade 
 
Jim Can you elucidate why you think the scabbard should be studyed point up? i was thinking of the knife the forumites here would describe as "fantasy"  in that it has an exotic cast handle, in the wallace collection that was a gift from Napolean III to the 4th Marques of of Hereford. 
 
As its the nearest knife Ive seen to this design. 
 
mmmm. Normal church representation  & a happy maiden or a fantasy knife? 
 
Intriuging opinions from such a learned bunch! Any one got any  facts to add? 
 
Perhaps some of you would be kind enough to show example of other such Christian brotherhood fantasy pieces? 
 
& of course examples of real Satanic daggers or do such things not exist? 
 
It would be nice to find an expert on such things. 
 
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