[RhysMichael]

Originally Posted by VVV

As I understand it from looking in van Zonneveld he describes the lower hilt as a Hulu Peusangan?
The difference is because of the flattened protrusions.
Unfortunately I don't have Kreemer 1922 or Volz 1912 as he quotes from.
Peusangan is a district, as well as a river, in North of Aceh.
So Hulu Peusangan is just a hilt from Peusangan.

The hilt looks like a crocodile so Hulu Buaya seems to be a probable, and fitting, alternative name for this hilt.

Michael

Michael
Thanks for the reply. I could be mistaken but it was my belief that the straight sword like at the top was a panjang and the longer curved sword was a peusangan. So I think that term describes the blade not the hilt. I did get this backin and e-mail from from Indonesia today. This is from someone dealing with contemporary smiths there and it does clear up some of my confusion though I still welcome any and all additional information I hope to update the page on these over the holidays
John

Originally Posted by NOESANTARA

IMHO, 'hulu tumpang beunteung' is widely used in ethnograpics community, AFAIK (as far as i know ) the 'hulu tumpang beunteung' was mention in some book publish by/in dutch periode and base on the research on indonesia traditional weapon.

In present / current days, the blacksmith or acehnese known this 'hulu tumpang beunteung' as 'hulu buaya' ( buaya = crocodile, due to the shape of the hilt look alike a crocodile mouth). As you might know there are 10 subetnic of acehnesse such as Aceh , Gayo, Alas, Aneuk Jamee, Melayu Tamiang, Kluet, Devayan, Sigulai, Haloban dan Julu. The term of 'hulu buaya', I assume came from aceh tribe, and 'hulu tumpang beunteung' came from gayo tribe. Due to the most majority people who live in aceh is aceh tribe, then they become acehnesse. In fact they are other 9 tribe in aceh.