|  6th February 2005, 06:25 PM | #17 | 
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				 Reference link. 
 
			
			Joining the confusion...Have a look at Cirebon hilts. This is raksasa kerdil.   
Another reference link.  
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/taman.sari/k...north_java.htm | 
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