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Originally Posted by Jim McDougall
Jeroan welcome to the forum!
Congratulations on acquiring a genuine piece of history, and its value is intrinsic, not monetary. As an arms historian, that is the perspective I look for, and the regions from which this came are powerfully historic. As one who has studied those fields for many years, this wonderful and actually unusual example brings forward all the contexts and questions which encourage these studies.
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Thank you very much for your insightful answers! My interest is purely historic, so the monetary value is not really an issue. Still, I bought it on a flea market for just 50 euros (around 57 American dollars) so you can imagine I am not worried about having spent too much.
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These kinds of vintage weapons have remained in favor and in use by the warriors of the many tribes in these rugged regions, in many cases well into modern times. While obviously modern arms are required in the warfare of our times in Afghan regions, there has never been a time where it did not exist in these regions.
Afghan armorers are innovative and skilled and through the 19th century created many traditional weapons crafting new components after old forms, and often copying old ones. Most often the arms created were composites of both, and decoration followed traditional styles.
As Rob has noted, a blunderbuss among these kinds of Afghan weapons is most unusual, and its having functional components suggests it was intended for actual use, its decoration indicating a tribal warrior of standing.
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If only there was a way to find out who the warrior in question was but that is impossible to find out. Apart from the characters inscribed or chiseled in the lock plate there are no names of either smith or owner on the gun.
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Without provenance it is hard to establish a date/period for these arms as they remained in use for generations, even well back into early 19th c.
This one seems to fall into latter 19th c into perhaps even 1930s when warfare with British was still quite active.
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I have contacted the collectors for the flea market to find out if they can remember who donated the gun. I did not get any further than the street it was donated from. This is in my own village so maybe I will try to use the local social media message boards to find out who owned it before me. Hopefully they can help me uncover any provenance or history. It might be a fun project for the summer.
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The most common type of gun in use was the 'jezail', a long high caliber gun with which the warriors of the dominant tribes in and around the Khyber were deadly snipers.
As a youngster I became enthralled by the 1950s movie "King of the Khyber Rifles" (Tyrone Power). In later years as I was well into my lifelong odyssey of studying the history of arms, I discovered that this story was from a novel written in 1919 by Talbot Mundy. This in turn was taken from the memoirs of a British officer, Sir Francis Warburton, "Eighteen Years in the Khyber".
This told of how this paramilitary unit of the British army was formed from groups of these deadly Khyber warriors, and at first called "Khyber Jezalchis"(as seen on the cover of his book).
These British auxiliary units often used their own weapons, despite later issued the regulation arms of British military.
Clearly it is MOST unusual to see a blunderbuss in Afghan context. Interesting that the term is actually of Dutch origin (donderbuss= thunder jar) ! These would have perhaps been favorable because of being muzzle loading and able to fire all manner of shot etc. with other ammunition not available. It seems these were known in Mughal context of course with one made for Tipu Sultan (latter 18th c.) and this well could be imitating this example, again strongly indicating association with a tribesman of important standing.
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I love the Dutch connection! I will try to find a copy of the book you mention, I really enjoy reading and especially historic books. Both novels and non-fiction. I actually read quite a bit about the Tipu Sultan in the series of "Sharpe” novels by Bernard Cornwell. In the end of each book is a chapter about the historical context surrounding the story.
Some question I would still like to ask about the weapon:
- What details of the gun tell you the period of late 19th to early 20th century? Is it possible to get a closer date? If you need detailed photoÂ’s of any part I am happy to provide them.
- There is no ramrod or space where it would sit. Also there are no indications of connection points for a sling. Is that typical for a blunderbuss?
- I have used Renaissance Wax for the stock and Ballistol gun oil to protect the metal parts. Is that enough or should I have it professionally cleaned and preserved? I want to preserve it without cleaning it too much.
- If it is most unusual, should it be in a museum or is it allright to keep it for myself to enjoy?
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Well done! and THANK YOU for sharing here!
All best regards
Jim
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You are most welcome and thanks again for your insight!