Alan, in my post #9, to which you referred in #18, I wrote:
"I have seen one old Branggah from Yogyakarta without Angkup, which was, so far as I can tell, in its original state."
In #18 you wrote;
(...) a Central Javanese ladrangan without angkup is always the result of an alteration, (...)
in my post #25 I presented a picture of this Branggah without Angkup, which you call Yogyakarta Bancihan.
That's it from my perpective, and we probably can call it a day.
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