Ethnographic Arms & Armour - View Single Post - Chronological listing of Polish-Lithuanian and Hungarian sabers

Teisani · 20th August 2023, 11:24 AM

1 - Thököly Imre from Transylvania, born 1657 - died 1705. Karabela hilt sabre. Chevrons on the hilt are visible.
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2- Pálffy Miklós 1552–1600 from Transylvania. I'm unsure if this portret was made much after his death, it's from Klebeband Nr. 1. I believe we should be careful with these portrets, since some could be later copies of lost originals, and could contain elements from later periods. https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki...ump-to-license
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At his side there is a typical boot-hilted sabre. In the lower left corner two sabres which look like karabela hilt, however they also seen reminescent of german hunting-sword hilts, like these here. They lack the languette on the side of the guard, but it's pretty common for period depictions to omit this detail. Opinions?

20th August 2023, 11:24 AM	#3
Teisani Member Join Date: Oct 2022 Location: Romania Posts: 314	1 - Thököly Imre from Transylvania, born 1657 - died 1705. Karabela hilt sabre. Chevrons on the hilt are visible. https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki...ump-to-license 2- Pálffy Miklós 1552–1600 from Transylvania. I'm unsure if this portret was made much after his death, it's from Klebeband Nr. 1. I believe we should be careful with these portrets, since some could be later copies of lost originals, and could contain elements from later periods. https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki...ump-to-license At his side there is a typical boot-hilted sabre. In the lower left corner two sabres which look like karabela hilt, however they also seen reminescent of german hunting-sword hilts, like these here. They lack the languette on the side of the guard, but it's pretty common for period depictions to omit this detail. Opinions?