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					Originally Posted by Tim Simmons
					
				 
				Well I am baffled, they are far from rare, have no scabbards, okay one has a nice ivory pommel nothing rare about that and the other one is damaged,  or am I blind to something.    
			
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 Well, Tim, actually, the ivory one is more rare than you think, especially if it has a full pommel with nothing missing.  As for the other, yeah, I agree, not big deal.