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					Originally Posted by Isreena
					
				 Mr Lei Seh Dao,Your earliar picture of Raja Gundolo is not a FISH? It is actually a symbol of "LAM ALIF" or "LAM JALALA". One of the Arabic letter of alphabet. I suspect that it is not tiban. It is a planned pamor. No doubt, it is indeed a very good pamor symbol in a keris.
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 I noticed this also, bit for some reason failed to comment. Martin Kerner talks about this in "Keris in the Magic World View". I think you are possibly right that this part of the pamor IS intentional. However, the "big" fish chasing it could perhaps still be considered Raja Gundolo. 
 
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					Originally Posted by Isreena
					
				 I'm sorry but I have to agree with Ricky. The pamor Pendita you are having is not a pamor tiban. To have both side having the same looking picture made it worse to be categorized as pamor tiban. However, it is a very good effort to make the pamor to look like a Raja Gundolo. | 
	
 I agree here also......don't you... Ricky? 
 
  
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					Originally Posted by Isreena
					
				 By the way guys? What pink light are you guys talking about? The shape of the pamors have been highlighted with different colours for easy viewing.   | 
	
 You are right, i can now see that the "pink" color is actually from a red highlighter around the inner pamor. 
 
 
You see that too....don't you Ricky?  
