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Old 7th August 2017, 04:28 PM   #7
fernando
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Originally Posted by Gonzalo G
... The aparition of the falcata doesn't seem to have followed a Celtic immigration... The aparition of the falcata corresponds to about the 5th-4th centuries BC., long after the arrival of the Celts.

What would be the criteria ? The Celts started the Hallstatt C iron culture between 8th-5th Centuries BC. Then we had the La Tene culture, one developed from the late Hallstatt, which lasted untill Roman occupation (1st century BC).
Then perhaps we should also consider that the Iberian smiths, themselves owners of great imagination, improved, adjusted, decorated and put up their own sword versions. So, freely speaking, we are simultaneously discussing late Hallstatt and la Tene antena swords (Gladius Hispaniensis), and Falcatas, either of imported infuence or actual Iberian, for the matter; don't you agree ? .

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The first thing we have to do is to establish where the falcatas came from.

This issue has apparently been discussed by countless academics, some in favour, some opposing and some even hesitating on the Gereek/Medierranean origin; what we may call discussing the sex of angels.

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Did they emerge first more to the east of the Peninsula, on actual Spain?
Souther Peninsula, actual South Spain

Quesada Sans pretends that the first version of Falcata ( the Fronton type) arose in the South of the Peninsula (actual Spain) by the 6th-5th century BC, while by the 4th century BC large parts of the Peninsula were 'flooded' with Falcatas. This is consistent with countless findings, which extended to mid South Portuguese Alcacer do Sal, one of the largest amount of La Tene and Falcatas found, not in the open, but in a necropolis context.

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Where are located the older findings?

Follow the charts ... which you are aware of several .

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Giving answers to this questions is not a simple task, given the lack of sources and the scarcity of remains from this period.

Having all answers, is not so fun .


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