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Terry K · 30th January 2017, 02:36 AM

Hi Jim,
Many of the early 1800's US military swords went to the baldric type after losing the frog. In fact the 1834 officers sword went to that. There are many earlier examples especially in Militia swords and presentation ones. After an absence of 20 years they were brought back in the Model 1860 staff officers sword on many makers models and the Model 1860 pattern 1872 did also.
I was told that this was most likely a presentation type and the presidents names were of those that had served so far, if true that would date to 1804-1817 time period, but I don't know if that is true or not. As I said I have seen one or two others but with more presidents names on them.
The grip type is seen on many militia type officers swords, just usually with part bone.
I've seen a few other Masonic markings on much early US items, so who knows.

Thanks,
Terry

30th January 2017, 02:36 AM	#7
Terry K Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 86	Hi Jim, Many of the early 1800's US military swords went to the baldric type after losing the frog. In fact the 1834 officers sword went to that. There are many earlier examples especially in Militia swords and presentation ones. After an absence of 20 years they were brought back in the Model 1860 staff officers sword on many makers models and the Model 1860 pattern 1872 did also. I was told that this was most likely a presentation type and the presidents names were of those that had served so far, if true that would date to 1804-1817 time period, but I don't know if that is true or not. As I said I have seen one or two others but with more presidents names on them. The grip type is seen on many militia type officers swords, just usually with part bone. I've seen a few other Masonic markings on much early US items, so who knows. Thanks, Terry