A couple more.  Old ( poor quality ) stock photos of two that I have had for years. 
 
Pre -cleaning photos, but they do show that one has a local made pamur blade and the other a plain monosteel. 
 
I have always thought that these were Javanese but obviously with European influence. 
 
Cheers 
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