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					Originally Posted by Pusaka
					
				 
				One other thing I would like to draw your attention to is that the Keris handle although it has been defaced it still has the original symbolic meaning, A man slightly bent over, hands resting on his stomach in meditation. 
			
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 There are myriad styles of ukiran ; I don't think this theory really holds water .
 
This form that you refer to is called Jawa Demam or fevered man .
What does this have to do with the original topic we are discussing here anyway ?
Let's get back on that topic , shall we .