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					Originally Posted by David
					
				 
				I might still try distilled water or a full strength vinegar with no water added to it at all to see if it is still a problem.     
			
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 I think I still need to rinse the vinegar off before applying the warangan (I hope I am using this term correctly), and then I am back to square one. Is it possible that this keris is meant to be cleaned and oiled, with no treatment?