Many thanks for valuable help. The short one is of course a carbine. Both these guns are marked Suhl, but are close to identical to the ones I believe were used in the Danish/Norwegian army (mainly against the Swedes).
The major part of my gun collection is of Danish/Norwegian long-guns, pistol & swords from the 1700 and 1800's. Here are a couple of pictures of long-guns. There are rubber cast magnets holding them:
If interested, you'll find more about Danish/Norwegian arms at
Danish/Norwegian Military Arms
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