Well I got one today and it's hard to tell it is well made but the claws are inserted into the iron bar via a copper or brass rod and there is signs of brass brazing around the perimeter of each claw so this may not be that old? I will see about the othe one when it gets here. The patina seems ok I brushed off some of the loose rust and what's left seems to be of the correct color of aged steel. Well if there of recent manufacture who ever made them did a great job The finals are faceted so I don't think someone would go to all that trouble to do this if they were trying to make a fake for $50-75?The blades are wicked sharp and I really did not over pay for them any way
