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Forum: Ethnographic Weapons Yesterday, 01:17 AM
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Posted By A. G. Maisey
OK Kai, understood, my error, I thought we were...

OK Kai, understood, my error, I thought we were headed towards one those interminable name discussions.

As for provenance, in respect of things things like pedangs and other little odds & sods of...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 30th March 2020, 11:02 AM
Replies: 14
Views: 277
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Kai, I'm looking at the entire object, not just...

Kai, I'm looking at the entire object, not just the blade, not just the hilt, not just the scabbard:- everything.

However, just for fun I'll imagine I'm in Pasar Triwindu, or down in the Alun-alun...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 30th March 2020, 01:15 AM
Replies: 14
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Posted By A. G. Maisey
Yeah, so would I Detlef, but in reality the name...

Yeah, so would I Detlef, but in reality the name used in place of origin and place of use might be something different.

This is the constantly recurring problem of the Name Game:- we do not know...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 29th March 2020, 10:28 PM
Replies: 14
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Posted By A. G. Maisey
Actually, in correct ngoko Javanese a...

Actually, in correct ngoko Javanese a "golok" is a dagger, but in both Malay and Bahasa Indonesia, a golok is a short chopper or cleaver.

Pedangs are swords.

You do not ever use a cleaver or ...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 29th March 2020, 08:48 PM
Replies: 14
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Posted By A. G. Maisey
Over the years I've seen a lot of this type of...

Over the years I've seen a lot of this type of thing in Central Jawa, and there I have never yet heard one called a golok,but always a pedang.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 28th March 2020, 12:44 AM
Replies: 56
Views: 1,598
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Cupla thangs Mickey. Number one:- I'm Aussie. In...

Cupla thangs Mickey.

Number one:- I'm Aussie. In general, Aussies from my generation and before tend not to take very much, very seriously. I take a few things relatively seriously, but mostly the...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 25th March 2020, 11:02 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 490
Posted By A. G. Maisey
I didn't pick that up Kai, but if it is carved...

I didn't pick that up Kai, but if it is carved that would in my opinion militate even more strongly against a Surakarta source. Bear in mind, I'm only saying what I believe it cannot be, I'm not...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 25th March 2020, 10:48 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 364
Posted By A. G. Maisey
No idea at all Kai, I'm just repeating something...

No idea at all Kai, I'm just repeating something that probably the bulk of ahli keris living in Solo during the 1970's & 1980's believed. At that time many of these ahli keris were men of advanced...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 25th March 2020, 08:37 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 490
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Thank you Tim. The metuk of this spear does seem...

Thank you Tim.

The metuk of this spear does seem to be Surakarta, the kinatah work appears to be of a quality that would permit a Surakarta origin, as does the pamor work, however, the the garap of...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 25th March 2020, 08:23 PM
Replies: 12
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Posted By A. G. Maisey
I have not read this book, however, it does...

I have not read this book, however, it does appear to be a very well produced, high quality publication.

A video tour of the exhibition is available at the link below, and I very strongly recommend...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 24th March 2020, 12:34 AM
Replies: 24
Views: 1,173
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Kai, to give a complete and accurate response to...

Kai, to give a complete and accurate response to your question I would probably need to be Theodore Pigeaud, and frankly, I am not even worthy to be this gentleman's shadow, assuming of course that...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 23rd March 2020, 09:08 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 490
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Tim, are you able to provide photos of both ends...

Tim, are you able to provide photos of both ends of the shaft so that we can see the form and detail of the ferrule and butt, and a full length photo of the tombak?
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 23rd March 2020, 09:03 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 364
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Amongst the old school collectors of Central Jawa...

Amongst the old school collectors of Central Jawa during the late 20th century, a major indicator for tombak classification was the metuk.

The metuk on this tombak under discussion is the form...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 23rd March 2020, 08:49 PM
Replies: 24
Views: 1,173
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Actually the word "cundrik" is Javanese...

Actually the word "cundrik" is Javanese it is a generic term for "dagger", and it is loosely used. Possibly the best examples of a cundrik that I know of are some agate hilted ladies daggers held by...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 23rd March 2020, 10:30 AM
Replies: 11
Views: 490
Posted By A. G. Maisey
No, not Bali, Jawa, I think probably Surakarta...

No, not Bali, Jawa, I think probably Surakarta but I want check a reference.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 23rd March 2020, 07:48 AM
Replies: 56
Views: 1,598
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Thank you Mickey, that's nice. Can I put it in...

Thank you Mickey, that's nice.

Can I put it in my resume?
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 23rd March 2020, 01:38 AM
Replies: 56
Views: 1,598
Posted By A. G. Maisey
I really don't remember Jaga. I think I was only...

I really don't remember Jaga.

I think I was only about 17 or 18 when I did this, it was the first keris I ever stained, I did not know any other way at that time. I remember broadly what I did, but...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 22nd March 2020, 02:56 AM
Replies: 24
Views: 1,173
Posted By A. G. Maisey
I reckon that pedang is probably as good as...

I reckon that pedang is probably as good as anything else, but if, just if we wish pay a nod of respect to what Balinese people themselves might refer to this sword as I think perhaps "Keris Pedang" ...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 22nd March 2020, 12:22 AM
Replies: 24
Views: 1,173
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Actually, if we want to use the name that was...

Actually, if we want to use the name that was correct at the time this weapon was in fact being used as a weapon, we probably should name it as:-

"Keris Tuwek" , this would have been correct usage...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 21st March 2020, 11:54 PM
Replies: 24
Views: 1,173
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Just an after thought. In respect of the word...

Just an after thought.

In respect of the word "tiuk" = "knife".

This word has the legitimate alternative spellings, and thus pronunciations of "tihuk" and "tiyuk".

In all cases the "k" is a...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 21st March 2020, 08:43 PM
Replies: 24
Views: 1,173
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Yes Lee, I would be inclined to give it the same...

Yes Lee, I would be inclined to give it the same name.

HOWEVER

naming is always only applicable to a particular time, place, situation. If we decide to use a particular name for one or another...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 21st March 2020, 11:27 AM
Replies: 24
Views: 1,173
Posted By A. G. Maisey
The word "tiuk" in Balinese means...

The word "tiuk" in Balinese means "knife", this object is 65cm. long, a bit too long for a knife.

As far as I am aware, the word "cundrik" does not exist in Balinese, but Lalu Djelengga uses it in...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 21st March 2020, 07:20 AM
Replies: 56
Views: 1,598
Posted By A. G. Maisey
I reckon that for the type of material it is, it...

I reckon that for the type of material it is, it is a pretty good job.

Long time since I used the rice water method, but I'm pretty certain that my rice water was produced by boiling rice in too...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 18th March 2020, 08:18 PM
Replies: 56
Views: 1,598
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Actually Jean, sulphur and salt has an erosive...

Actually Jean, sulphur and salt has an erosive effect.

I once saw a keris blade taken from a bath of sulphur and salt, it had been in the bath for about a week and had been forgotten. More than 50%...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 18th March 2020, 12:14 PM
Replies: 56
Views: 1,598
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Yes Jean, I would have thought that bicarb and...

Yes Jean, I would have thought that bicarb and lemon juice together would have reduced the acidity, but Marco used it, and apparently it worked. Maybe it was just the bicarb and brushing that...
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