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Forum: Keris Warung Kopi Yesterday, 09:39 PM
Replies: 10
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Posted By A. G. Maisey
Yes David, I am pretty much endorsing your...

Yes David, I am pretty much endorsing your remarks.

As for "tourist", well I guess we can have ebay tourists as well as real ones, and you're right I gave ebay cruising away years ago, for me its...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi Yesterday, 08:36 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 155
Posted By A. G. Maisey
I have difficulty in going along with the...

I have difficulty in going along with the "tourist" idea associated with physical keris-like objects, especially since the end of WWII.

In my experience more locals buy these keris-like confections...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi Yesterday, 11:40 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 155
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Jean, Theo was writing about what he chose to...

Jean, Theo was writing about what he chose to call "Iron Ancestors", he was not writing only about keris sajen, but about a wide range of styles of talismanic weapons.

But be that as it may, when he...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 10th February 2016, 08:45 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 155
Posted By A. G. Maisey
This is an opinion Marius, what I will now write...

This is an opinion Marius, what I will now write is not something you will find in keris books.

Every keris sajen you see is genuine, doesn't matter if it was made yesterday, or made several hundred...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 5th February 2016, 12:06 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 454
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Yes, but not "orang-orang", just one...

Yes, but not "orang-orang", just one person, so "orang".

Personally I'd prefer "manusia" rather than "orang".

Bear this in mind:-

we're dealing with a translation of a chronogram, Martha Muusses...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 4th February 2016, 09:18 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 454
Posted By A. G. Maisey
correction

In post #6 I have given the reading of the chronogram for 9531 as :-

gapura buta abara wong

this is incorrect, a product of my rather messy notes, it should be:-

gapura buta aban wong

sorry for...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 1st February 2016, 09:05 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 414
Posted By A. G. Maisey
David, we cannot think of "Jawa" as a...

David, we cannot think of "Jawa" as a singly homogeneous unity over all time. What we know about the North Coast of Jawa in the first quarter of the 15th century is this:-

"The men have a pu-lak...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 1st February 2016, 08:10 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 454
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Rasdan:- no, it is a plain lingga, not one of the...

Rasdan:- no, it is a plain lingga, not one of the highly carved works

Yuuzan;- the most accessible source for the Candra Sangkala is Raffles "History of Java"
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 1st February 2016, 08:01 PM
Replies: 53
Views: 1,324
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Jean:- artistic expression; this is a hilt that...

Jean:- artistic expression; this is a hilt that was created purely for art:- if you need to stick gemstones onto it, you need an excuse to accommodate the gemstones.

David:- speaking only for...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 1st February 2016, 10:58 AM
Replies: 53
Views: 1,324
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Yep Jean, true:- Balinese priests don't usually...

Yep Jean, true:- Balinese priests don't usually sport Siciliano facial hair, but don't doubt for one moment that we are looking at somebody's representation of a pamangku, its just that art trumps...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 1st February 2016, 06:12 AM
Replies: 14
Views: 414
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Actually David, young children did wear keris....

Actually David, young children did wear keris. There is a reference to this in the Ying Yai Sheng Lan, and I've seen it in other places too. Even now, if a a young boy gets dressed in full formal...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 1st February 2016, 12:41 AM
Replies: 13
Views: 454
Posted By A. G. Maisey
We only have the one date Rick and that is in the...

We only have the one date Rick and that is in the form of a chronogram --- pictorial symbols for numbers --- the symbols that can be understood as: "gapura buta abara wong" this translates to the...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 31st January 2016, 09:12 PM
Replies: 53
Views: 1,324
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Rocanice, you already have the correct name and...

Rocanice, you already have the correct name and description for this hilt:- you have called it an "Ukiran Pemangku".

As it is Balinese, it should not be called "ukiran" as this is Javanese...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 30th January 2016, 08:30 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 454
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Thanks gentlemen.

Thanks gentlemen.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 29th January 2016, 11:59 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 454
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Candi Sukuh

Here is a link to four pages of photographs of Candi Sukuh in Central Jawa.

Keris people know Candi Sukuh for its stele depicting a forge, but Candi Sukuh is much more than that. It is one of the...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 29th January 2016, 09:17 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 461
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Harry, I do understand your position, and the...

Harry, I do understand your position, and the point that you are making, however, when we engage in a study of the keris, most especially the keris as it is understood in Jawa, we are obliged to step...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 25th January 2016, 07:21 AM
Replies: 53
Views: 1,324
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Its a matter of the more one knows, the less one...

Its a matter of the more one knows, the less one knows.

Was a time I was pretty positive of a lot of things, these days I find I know less with every passing day.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 25th January 2016, 01:53 AM
Replies: 53
Views: 1,324
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Let's look at the formal attributes of Dewa...

Let's look at the formal attributes of Dewa Bayu.

Dewa Bayu is actually the manifestation of Sanghyang Widhi in his power to create the wind. People say Bayu is the "God of the Wind", this is not...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 24th January 2016, 09:52 PM
Replies: 53
Views: 1,324
Posted By A. G. Maisey
David, we're not in debate here, we're involved...

David, we're not in debate here, we're involved in a non-antagonistic discussion.

We're not scoring points, nor do any of us seem to be holding opposing points of view that we need to convince...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 24th January 2016, 07:33 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 335
Posted By A. G. Maisey
A nice, balanced comment Henk. I cannot disagree...

A nice, balanced comment Henk.

I cannot disagree with anything you have said.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 24th January 2016, 11:39 AM
Replies: 53
Views: 1,324
Posted By A. G. Maisey
David, my point in mention of the true original...

David, my point in mention of the true original intent of the maker is a fairly extreme example of just how difficult it can be to correctly identify the character depicted in a hilt figure.

I used...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 23rd January 2016, 09:33 PM
Replies: 53
Views: 1,324
Posted By A. G. Maisey
I am not arguing against this recent character...

I am not arguing against this recent character being Ravana.

However, an opinion without evidence to support that opinion is only as good as the person giving the opinion.

Since none of us here are...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 22nd January 2016, 10:26 PM
Replies: 53
Views: 1,324
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Yes Jean, maybe an experienced specialist hilt...

Yes Jean, maybe an experienced specialist hilt carver will have some knowledge.
Or an interested Brahman priest.
Or an academic specialising in this subject.

However, even if we get a supposedly...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 22nd January 2016, 10:51 AM
Replies: 53
Views: 1,324
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Yes Jean, there are some differences, and the...

Yes Jean, there are some differences, and the remarkable (?) thing is this:-

the more carefully we look at these supposedly identical figures, the more we find minor variation.

Identical figures,...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 20th January 2016, 09:39 PM
Replies: 53
Views: 1,324
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Several more. Gilt on brass, colour under glass,...

Several more.

Gilt on brass, colour under glass, estimate late 19th century

Gilt on silver, natural stones, early 1980's

Gilt on brass, glass & natural stone, estimate early 20th century
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