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Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
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Jim McDougall
![]() Thanks Colin, and I do appreciate the tender attention to my perceived sensitivities on the use of terms. It seems as so often the use of a term or phrase used in entries is challenged (especially in... |
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
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Jim McDougall
![]() As LJ has noted in the previous post, there are clearly numerous cases of crocodile armor in other ethnographic cultures. I had come across this armor from these regions which noted these crocodile... |
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
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Jim McDougall
![]() Animal hides, skins, naturally dry out over time if not lubricated by some sort of oil or conditioner. Cracks will occur in 'dry' periods if conditioning or oiling is not done . In the situation I... |
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
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Jim McDougall
![]() Thank you Fernando. In mentioning these groups, I wanted to spare any elaboration on their nefarious activities, but note that these warrior fraternities of many years earlier were apparently... |
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
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Jim McDougall
![]() 'm with you Richard! The 'movie prop' angle is definitely a new one for these pages, perhaps the 'tourist' or 'souvenir' terms have worn thin :) Your note on the bargaining items (bribes etc.)... |
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
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Jim McDougall
![]() Although we are discussing a cuirass from Africa, I wanted to add, at least anecdotally, a similar kind of case from here in Texas. In the 1870s, armor and a helmet were in the Pecos desert in... |
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Jim McDougall
![]() Looking further into the 'cult' , secret society and other such organizations in Africa, it seems such traditions are well steeped into antiquity. Apparently in Egypt, in about 3rd century AD, there... |
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
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Jim McDougall
![]() Thats a great idea Colin! if nothing else to remove this persistent element from the equation. There were I understand numerous firms which produced costume elements for movie studios, the sets and... |
Forum: European Armoury
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Jim McDougall
![]() The very esoteric topic of these Khevsur people has long been a personal favorite since I first became aware of them in the early 90s. They are primarily a mountaineer, tribal people of the Caucasus... |
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
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Jim McDougall
![]() As always, great points and observations, and a wonderfully lively discussion which I am enjoying very much. It is true, this concerns hypotheticals, which is the texture of a discussion seeking... |
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
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Jim McDougall
![]() Excellent redaction of my synopsis Fernando !!! :) Looking into the esoterica of symbolism in the study of ethnographic arms and armor is pretty essential to help identiify and classify items which... |
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
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Jim McDougall
![]() Hmmmm, I WONDER if this could be a kind of regalia for use by a member of one of the secretive guilds or societies known in West Africa, one that comes to mind is the 'Crocodile guild'. There are... |
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
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Jim McDougall
![]() Exactly. I had meant to suggest that by saying 'the traditional old armor ' implying that the animal hide as used in older armor, may have been modified to protect the wearer against the modern... |
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
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Jim McDougall
![]() This is exactly the circumstance I was referring to, 'cults' , These cults remained quite active well into the 20th century. |
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
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Jim McDougall
![]() well noted!!! in a number of the statues and art relating to these armored men there seem to be attachments of some kind. There were often amulets in the form of written invocations etc. in small... |
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
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Jim McDougall
![]() Well noted!!! I had not thought of the expense factor !! A few years back I had a pair of 'gator' boots made,......eeeaaughh! and I got a good deal. This stuff is expensive! Bannerman's stuff... |
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
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Jim McDougall
![]() Not at all Kubur! You have always made most astute and valuable observations here, and your suggestion is of course a viable consideration. In looking at this most unusual item, it does not... |
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
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Jim McDougall
![]() This is an incredibly interesting item, and in my view is likely an armor from Benin, in West Africa. These kinds of armor were worn by warriors of a kind of society known as a leopard hunting guild... |
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
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Jim McDougall
![]() Ahah!!! I was thinking of Buco, in Desperado, a Tarentino western as opposed to Eastwood :) GBU is a classic!!! This kinda stuff is sorta 'Gospel' here in Texas ! |
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
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Jim McDougall
![]() Point well noted, but actually not necessarily 'over' thinking, as we have been focused on the symbolism of the sword in the opening post of the thread, and possible similarities with other examples.... |
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
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Jim McDougall
![]() Atavistic designs in edged weapons is well known in many cultures who called on iconographic depictions to bring their hereditary weapons into their present and traditions. The reference to the... |
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
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Jim McDougall
![]() This has become an interesting look into the kinds of symbolism which influences the elements and decoration of various ethnographic edged weapons. While not necessarily directly connected, and many... |
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
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Jim McDougall
![]() Very well said, and it is well established that 'absence of evidence does not constitute evidence'. I think that probably the reason there has not been some sort of published material on the 'swords... |
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
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Jim McDougall
![]() Excellent references Colin! well support your observation regarding 'swords' and Madagascar. While Madagascar is one of the larger islands in the world, it was remote and only tribally populated... |
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
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Jim McDougall
![]() In continuing reading through resources seeking more information on the possibilities for this sword (orig. post) , the chapter "The Shining Mystery: Throwing Knives of Africa" in "African Arms and... |
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