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ariel
![]() Bidri technique is characterized by perfectly flat surface. What is described in the Indian paper cited by Kwiatek is an inlay technique with gold/silver/brass wire hammered into incised channels... |
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
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![]() Can you give a reference to this technique/name? All this is totally new to me. |
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
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![]() Well, I still do not know where the term “ teh-Tula” came from, but obviously it is not meant to signify niello. Likely, the author means some kind of inlay. Overall, it looks like a very simple... |
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![]() I do not wish to engage in this type of discussion. If anybody here wants to open a separate topic addressing pros and cons of various books on the subject, I shall be happy to add my 2 cents ... |
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
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ariel
![]() I am absolutely certain that every participant on this Forum is very well aware of the Sepoy Rebellion, aka Great Mutiny, or India’s First War of Independence:-) But it had nothing to do with the... |
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
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ariel
![]() Kubur, You are partially correct: the role of bladed weapons shrank markedly with the introduction of firearms. But short-bladed weapons suffered the biggest blow. Swords/ sabers were still used... |
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
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ariel
![]() Per Elgood, katars in the 19th century were made in quantities, but for tourist/ souvenir purposes only. The era of face-to-face battles was over...... Everybody got a proverbial Maxim gun. |
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
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![]() I cannot see niello there. What I do see, is a cheap false filigree on a souvenir shashka made in contemporary Georgia. |
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
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ariel
![]() Yes, Shia. My guess , this pseudo-shashka was not made in Afghanistan by the local Shia, Hazara or Quizilbash. Afghani-made weapons are usually simple and pretty crude. I would guess it came from... |
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
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ariel
![]() What on earth is teh -tula? Never heard of it. Any chance it is Tula Weapon manufacture? |
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
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ariel
![]() Well, if one looks carefully at your delineation of the drag, it is the convex side that seems to be wider, suggesting that the sword was worn “ saber- wise”, not “shashka-wise”. That would prove... |
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
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ariel
![]() As per Elgood’s text in the Jodhpur book, names ending in “- rao” or starting in “khan-“ are seen among Rajastani inscriptions. And the overall style of decoration would fit. In short, I doubt... |
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
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ariel
![]() Or, to be rude and cynical, the furniture of kastane ended up in the sweaty hands of contemporary N.African souvenir dealer who went thru his supply of touristy flissa blades and found one fitting... |
Forum: Ethnographic Miscellania
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ariel
![]() The Third Battle of Panipat ended in a resounding defeat of the Marathi army. More than 40,000 fully armed soldiers died on the battlefield. But 40,000 -70,000 of mostly non-combatants were taken... |
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
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ariel
![]() Polish school of arms history and identification places hilts as a defining feature ( determines ethnicity and manner of fencing). Other schools and individuals emphasize blades as the working... |
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
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ariel
![]() To complicate things even further, Shamshir in Persia can be curved or straight, and in Afghanistan, pulwar and Central Asian pseudoshashkas are all shamshirs in local parlance. The bottom line, in... |
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
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ariel
![]() For some reasons the blade reminds me of rather modern Flissa daggers |
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
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ariel
![]() Well, if you think that all things Ottoman are Turkish, that would greatly simplify your provenancing :-) |
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
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ariel
![]() Ottoman Yataghans were assembled from mass-produced blades coming largely from Anatolia and Balkans ( Bosnia, mainly). Wherever they landed, their further fate was to fall into the hands of a local... |
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ariel
![]() Mali noz is translated as “ small knife”. And Foca is likely: smooth round coral. I would guess end of 19- early to mid 20th century. It doesn’t seem to be dated, so dating is mainly by condition... |
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
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ariel
![]() The very first sword in the series shown by me, has a very " Hindu" pommel: unopened lotus flower. The next one has a peculiar handle: downturned quillons ( Persian/Afghani style) with the same Hindu... |
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
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ariel
![]() Jim, a sprinkle of rationality always enlivens a discussion:-) My mentor during my fellowship years always taught me to conduct an experiment aimed at destroying my theory. Only if it failed was... |
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ariel
![]() Don’t feel bad: the above info was lifted verbatim from the Russian version of Wikipedia. The reliability of that source is limited, to put it mildly. For example, the blurb here states that... |
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ariel
![]() A tiny question: how were these swords tied to the trunks? Unless we use tight belts, they will turn and hit the enemy not with the edge, but with the flat of the blade. And if we tie them very hard,... |
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
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ariel
![]() Jim, I see your point about trunk swords and deep inside I am on your side. Moreover, their physical absence in museum collections is disturbing. However, we have several separate accounts of... |
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