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Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 19th May 2022, 11:24 AM
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Posted By Gustav
A complete, high quality, and possibly early form...

A complete, high quality, and possibly early form of this hilt:

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=13785
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 13th May 2022, 01:16 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 938
Posted By Gustav
Of course there is a probability for this blade...

Of course there is a probability for this blade to come from S Sumatra, yet the manipulations of pamor on this type of blades are more typical for Malay Peninsula, specifically northern Malay...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 8th May 2022, 09:07 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 938
Posted By Gustav
Detllef, of course it could be a West Java...

Detllef,

of course it could be a West Java Keris, but I would perhaps tend more to a Chenok blade from Northern Malay regions, because of Pamor and its manipulations.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 21st April 2022, 02:00 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 2,080
Posted By Gustav
JustYS, important is that at least since...

JustYS,

important is that at least since Arjunawijaya (14th cent.) a combination "singha barwang alayu" appears, is used in other works, and later becomes a Modern Javanese concept "singabarong"...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 21st April 2022, 10:23 AM
Replies: 16
Views: 2,080
Posted By Gustav
Alan, thank you for disclosing the obvious and...

Alan, thank you for disclosing the obvious and regrettable shortcomings of Helen Ibbitson Jessup's translation of the title "Singhabarwang Penambahan Pakungwati" (where she apparently mixed up...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 20th April 2022, 10:40 AM
Replies: 16
Views: 2,080
Posted By Gustav
It is more likely, as I understand now, that the...

It is more likely, as I understand now, that the error (1549 CE versus 1649 CE) is made in the internet article.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 20th April 2022, 09:59 AM
Replies: 16
Views: 2,080
Posted By Gustav
Barwang = Barong, both names are used, and I...

Barwang = Barong, both names are used, and I guess Barwang is/was the local spelling.

Helen Ibbitson Jessup gives the date for Singhabarwang as 1549, at another place 16th cent. Of course it could...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 19th April 2022, 10:15 AM
Replies: 16
Views: 2,080
Posted By Gustav
The carriage depicted in initial post is actually...

The carriage depicted in initial post is actually the Singhabarwang, with full title Singhabarwang Penambahan Pakungwati. There are three carriages, which still exist, and are claimed to have...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 11th April 2022, 12:40 PM
Replies: 22
Views: 2,188
Posted By Gustav
Alan, thank you for your remarks. Looking at...

Alan, thank you for your remarks.

Looking at how Keris terminology has changed over last 40 years I can imagine, terminology used by people around 120 years ago could leave us really wondering...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 8th April 2022, 02:42 PM
Replies: 22
Views: 2,188
Posted By Gustav
And two from Groneman, one more refined:

And two from Groneman, one more refined:
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 8th April 2022, 01:45 PM
Replies: 22
Views: 2,188
Posted By Gustav
One of them:

One of them:
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 8th April 2022, 01:17 PM
Replies: 22
Views: 2,188
Posted By Gustav
Alan, exactly, that would include the possibility...

Alan, exactly, that would include the possibility that the Selut was made to accomodate the figurine turned into hilt.
Regarding more recent Selut, I have seen by far more ones with stright upper...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 8th April 2022, 10:23 AM
Replies: 22
Views: 2,188
Posted By Gustav
Alan, this type of Selut was common in Jogja...

Alan, this type of Selut was common in Jogja already around 1900 and most probably at least 20 years earlier. It is depicted in Groneman's plates on some of Karyodikromo's Keris, he calls the motif...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 8th April 2022, 08:28 AM
Replies: 22
Views: 2,188
Posted By Gustav
Alan, why do you think the selut is very recent?

Alan, why do you think the selut is very recent?
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 7th April 2022, 10:43 AM
Replies: 96
Views: 39,839
Posted By Gustav
One more remark regarding Panataran carving. ...

One more remark regarding Panataran carving.

On Pagar Ruyung Keris Gandhik doesn't protrude beyound the outline of blade, which is typical for "old style" Jalak Budho. Accordingly the sheath has...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 7th April 2022, 09:38 AM
Replies: 96
Views: 39,839
Posted By Gustav
Up till now I know of three depictions of a...

Up till now I know of three depictions of a tapering Gandar with a scroll at the end - Panataran, Kertolo statue in Museum Pusat and the photograph by Kinsbergen of the Pusakas of Pagar Ruyung. Pagar...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 6th April 2022, 01:09 PM
Replies: 96
Views: 39,839
Posted By Gustav
The sheath from Candi Sukuh could also be a form...

The sheath from Candi Sukuh could also be a form similar to the Jamprahan from Bali. Such Ladrangan without Angkup we encounter also on island of Java.

On Panataran carving the overall shape of...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 16th February 2022, 09:17 AM
Replies: 23
Views: 1,990
Posted By Gustav
Alan, thank you very much for your response. ...

Alan, thank you very much for your response.

I also noticed the unusual blade surface, and one of possibilities I thought of also was wootz. So I just asked you the questions I had about this...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 15th February 2022, 10:06 PM
Replies: 23
Views: 1,990
Posted By Gustav
Detlef, this is how it would happen with me :D: ...

Detlef, this is how it would happen with me :D:

I want to get rid of the obvious black patches of dirt on wooden parts. I do it. Then the now much more obvious dirt on metal parts starts to annoy...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 15th February 2022, 09:42 PM
Replies: 23
Views: 1,990
Posted By Gustav
Alan, I have thought about the possibility of...

Alan, I have thought about the possibility of wootz, but:

doesn`t the grain in this picture behave a bit more like a normal material grain above the Poyuhan? Also in the full length pictures the...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 14th February 2022, 09:39 PM
Replies: 23
Views: 1,990
Posted By Gustav
Cerjak, there is very little left of any features...

Cerjak, there is very little left of any features of the blade, which would allow to place it in time, it is in relic condition, the surface is treated in a way, which don't give a possibility to...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 13th February 2022, 08:39 PM
Replies: 23
Views: 1,990
Posted By Gustav
The blade with some certainty is older then 19th...

The blade with some certainty is older then 19th cent., it originally comes from different Keris culture, as the other forumites observed, but the sheath was obviously made for this blade and have...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 2nd February 2022, 10:57 AM
Replies: 21
Views: 9,586
Posted By Gustav
I find interesting, that this recently carved...

I find interesting, that this recently carved figure, which perhaps could be identified as Rarung, holds a piece of fabric in each hand.
(In Barong play Rarung has a red magic cloth, which makes her...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 25th December 2021, 10:42 AM
Replies: 96
Views: 39,839
Posted By Gustav
Hello Amuk Murugul, of course this Keris did...

Hello Amuk Murugul,

of course this Keris did have at least one stopover in workshops run by portuguese in ther trading facilities or colonies, where the stones in the hilt were in set in a...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 24th December 2021, 09:00 PM
Replies: 96
Views: 39,839
Posted By Gustav
As the sheath is a perfect fit for the blade, we...

As the sheath is a perfect fit for the blade, we can consider it to have been made for the Keris and thus original.
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