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Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 3rd June 2020, 02:44 AM
Replies: 20
Views: 1,613
Posted By Nihl
Not to intentionally throw a wrench in the...

Not to intentionally throw a wrench in the discussion here and completely switch the current focus of thread, but gentlemen I'd like to point out one key element here: the katar in question does not...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 27th May 2020, 01:24 AM
Replies: 17
Views: 1,509
Posted By Nihl
Just to inject another "IMO" in here...

Just to inject another "IMO" in here about sword tips & shapes & all:
In regards to the "zirah bouk-ish" sword I would point out that the blade shape is both in form and decoration blatantly 19th...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 24th May 2020, 09:13 PM
Replies: 20
Views: 1,613
Posted By Nihl
If I had to guess, as a collector that does focus...

If I had to guess, as a collector that does focus mostly on Indian weapons, the reason for the inflated price on this katar actually does come from (as Drabant suggested) its tiger stripes. These...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 17th January 2020, 10:01 PM
Replies: 73
Views: 5,299
Posted By Nihl
I personally would be wary of attributing much...

I personally would be wary of attributing much age to this piece. Assuming it is even supposed to be some kind of katar, there are fair number of "katars" of similar form - all of which are blatant...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 20th November 2019, 03:33 AM
Replies: 70
Views: 6,381
Posted By Nihl
Just to add to the examples in this thread, here...

Just to add to the examples in this thread, here are three pieces I have with cut steel decoration; a pata and bara jamdadu, both from the 17th century, and an early 19th century pata. All of them...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 3rd November 2019, 09:47 PM
Replies: 70
Views: 6,381
Posted By Nihl
Just to add to the examples here, one of my...

Just to add to the examples here, one of my katars appears to have had the blade taken off its original hilt and then brazed onto its current one. Also kind of surprised no ones mentioned copper...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 9th July 2019, 11:16 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 2,187
Posted By Nihl
Hey there bsingh, What makes you think it is...

Hey there bsingh,

What makes you think it is watered steel? The pictures you provide don't show the blade in any great detail, and even with the large picture it is hard to see much detail in the...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 15th June 2019, 10:22 PM
Replies: 59
Views: 5,909
Posted By Nihl
Jim, Also to address your post directly :) it...

Jim,

Also to address your post directly :) it seems to me like these things are the indian equivalent of the european "sword breaker" dagger. Though of course it has just about the same capacity to...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 15th June 2019, 09:36 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 1,776
Posted By Nihl
Kubur, Unfortunately I was not lucky enough to...

Kubur,

Unfortunately I was not lucky enough to win this sword, I simply saved the pictures from the website. Because of this, though I can't say for certain, I'm pretty sure the answer is no.



In...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 15th June 2019, 01:28 AM
Replies: 59
Views: 5,909
Posted By Nihl
I agree with Ariel and (it seems) everyone else...

I agree with Ariel and (it seems) everyone else that this discussion is a bit silly. Whether we like it or not, in modern times, katar is staying as the "common" name for these punch daggers until a...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 14th June 2019, 11:21 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 1,776
Posted By Nihl
Since it was brought up, here are some pictures...

Since it was brought up, here are some pictures of the aforementioned laz bichaq, if anyone is interested.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 10th June 2019, 08:27 PM
Replies: 59
Views: 5,909
Posted By Nihl
Excellent overview Jim! Unfortunately that...

Excellent overview Jim! Unfortunately that summarizes my knowledge of the form as well. I did a little bit of looking around online and found an example that has the more usual two-bar grip instead...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 10th June 2019, 02:05 AM
Replies: 59
Views: 5,909
Posted By Nihl
Ah! Jim! So sorry, indeed, as Mercenary said, the...

Ah! Jim! So sorry, indeed, as Mercenary said, the "silly" was only meant to describe the collage, not Elgood or his research/writing/books/what-have-you. I added it when, after making the collage, I...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 8th June 2019, 09:13 PM
Replies: 59
Views: 5,909
Posted By Nihl
Well, yes, this is inherent in having two...

Well, yes, this is inherent in having two different words that mean two different things. Obviously pata-leafs and pata-swords are not interchangeable words, but that doesn't mean that one can't...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 8th June 2019, 03:26 AM
Replies: 59
Views: 5,909
Posted By Nihl
In regards to how they were used, I think there...

In regards to how they were used, I think there is no doubt that conventional katars are well documented as being nasty punching (stabbing) weapons. I've thrust (punched) mine into some thick foam...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 4th June 2019, 08:01 PM
Replies: 59
Views: 5,909
Posted By Nihl
I agree with Ariel, it's definitely interesting...

I agree with Ariel, it's definitely interesting that we have a few odd names (categories) that have survived to today, yet no native terms to distinguish straight and curved katars, even though...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 4th June 2019, 07:42 PM
Replies: 27
Views: 2,024
Posted By Nihl
Hi all, I think one thing this thread could...

Hi all,

I think one thing this thread could benefit from is a visual gallery of sorts, like with the pictures that Fernando has already posted. This should help everyone get a better understanding...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 2nd May 2019, 10:00 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 1,998
Posted By Nihl
I can't say there is anything I can add here that...

I can't say there is anything I can add here that would really provoke much discourse, but I completely agree with your observations. Just because a sword can't be used in the same way as an olympic...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 31st March 2019, 04:22 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 1,440
Posted By Nihl
Hey there Manish, welcome to the forum! I...

Hey there Manish, welcome to the forum!

I consider myself to be a bit of a newbie too, so some other users here will probably be able to tell you way more useful information your pattas, but here's...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 24th March 2019, 06:23 PM
Replies: 82
Views: 5,826
Posted By Nihl
Did some looking, found an example from the 16th...

Did some looking, found an example from the 16th century of an Indian dagger with what looks like beading on the inside of a vegetal motif. Might just have been used to give the plants texture...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 14th March 2019, 12:29 AM
Replies: 82
Views: 5,826
Posted By Nihl
Popping in again to give my 2 cents on what's...

Popping in again to give my 2 cents on what's being talked about.
Personally, I'm rather satisfied with the link to old decorative forms. As uninteresting as it may be, I concede that it does make...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 8th March 2019, 10:27 PM
Replies: 82
Views: 5,826
Posted By Nihl
Oh yes good job Ibrahiim on the link with jewelry...

Oh yes good job Ibrahiim on the link with jewelry and armor. Iirc there is an image of a similar vambrace in Elgood's Hindu A&R. Unfortunately I do not have the book with me currently so I am unable...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 8th March 2019, 12:26 AM
Replies: 82
Views: 5,826
Posted By Nihl
Hi all, sorry I can't post as often, I just have...

Hi all, sorry I can't post as often, I just have some things going on in my personal life currently. Hope you all can understand. :)

Addressing an earlier bit brought up by Jim, I was mostly...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 6th March 2019, 01:38 AM
Replies: 82
Views: 5,826
Posted By Nihl
Wow I didn't expect the discussion to pick up so...

Wow I didn't expect the discussion to pick up so quickly! Thanks to all for replying/contributing!

Just my 2 cents on the discussion so far, I largely agree with Jim's point about it being in effect...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 4th March 2019, 01:51 AM
Replies: 82
Views: 5,826
Posted By Nihl
Significance of Beaded Edges/Borders on South Indian Weapons?

Hi all,

One big feature that I've noticed is present on a lot of south Indian arms and armor is a "beaded edge" that usually trails along the rim of the object. While my library is far from...
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