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Forum: Ethnographic Weapons Yesterday, 06:12 PM
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Posted By ariel
I think both of them are European. As to...

I think both of them are European.
As to terminology: both are “ Mameluke swords” for the Europeans, both are “kilij” for the Ottomans, both are “shamshirs” for the Persians or Indo-Persians.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 9th July 2020, 10:39 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 406
Posted By ariel
I agree. Optimistically late 20th, realistically...

I agree. Optimistically late 20th, realistically 21st century. I remember seeing a couple of them on E-bay over the past couple of years.

Pretty risky and impractical design: one would almost...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 9th July 2020, 10:32 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 212
Posted By ariel
You were correct and Teodor’s comment was spot...

You were correct and Teodor’s comment was spot on.
This Yataghans are unusually long, their blades are crude-ish, relatively narrow, T-spined, curved ( not recurved), and they have integral...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 6th July 2020, 02:09 AM
Replies: 14
Views: 2,713
Posted By ariel
Piso Podangs are likely to have brass handles,...

Piso Podangs are likely to have brass handles, asymmetric swelling of the grip and much more figurative endings of the quillons. Yours has none of the above.

We seem to have a difference of...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 5th July 2020, 10:55 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 828
Posted By ariel
Do we know when these vases were created? I went...

Do we know when these vases were created? I went on the site of images from Bhaja Caves, and there are indeed some obviously old ones with curved swords. So, in my mind, their existence 2000...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 5th July 2020, 05:30 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 338
Posted By ariel
An ancestor of Chillanum and/or Jamdhar...

An ancestor of Chillanum and/or Jamdhar Katari?

Man, you manage to find examples that put the existing theories upside down!

Where are you located and are you a professional historian of weapons?...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 5th July 2020, 05:12 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 828
Posted By ariel
I am hesitant about the images in your post #1....

I am hesitant about the images in your post #1. The degree of preservation, the perfectly smooth surfaces, the sophistication of the details and the general artistic level do not seem to be...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 4th July 2020, 03:46 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 828
Posted By ariel
As to the swordsman in your post #5: because of...

As to the swordsman in your post #5: because of the state of preservation, I cannot see the curvature:-(

But what I find even more interesting, his sword seems to have a D-guard ( my...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 4th July 2020, 02:46 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 828
Posted By ariel
Thanks a lot! Extremely interesting!

Thanks a lot!
Extremely interesting!
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 4th July 2020, 05:55 AM
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Views: 12,242
Posted By ariel
Can you post the text and its source?

Can you post the text and its source?
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 4th July 2020, 05:50 AM
Replies: 13
Views: 828
Posted By ariel
What is the source of those images?

What is the source of those images?
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 4th July 2020, 05:36 AM
Replies: 35
Views: 1,401
Posted By ariel
I shall pass on your question re. images of...

I shall pass on your question re. images of flowers:
My wife had been exasperated with my ignorance in botany. She is sure that for me there are only 2 kinds of flowers: those with thorns are...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 2nd July 2020, 07:21 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 464
Posted By ariel
I am with RSWORD: khanjar, late Qajar, replaced...

I am with RSWORD: khanjar, late Qajar, replaced handle, original scabbard.
My only hesitation: some pics of the blade are suspicious for being wootz-y.
The blade is patinated and the issue can be...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 30th June 2020, 04:59 PM
Replies: 35
Views: 1,401
Posted By ariel
I do. And the map looks quite deceiving. ...

I do. And the map looks quite deceiving.

Persians tried to absorb Eastern Georgia for centuries, and invaded it repeatedly, sometimes being victorious, sometimes beaten. But they never made it a...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 28th June 2020, 11:09 AM
Replies: 28
Views: 5,326
Posted By ariel
Yes, that was the sad time of cheap junk. But...

Yes, that was the sad time of cheap junk.
But here is a newly made kindjal, - blade, scabbard, handle, decoration. Georgian masters made a miraculous recovery and their contemporary examples are...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 28th June 2020, 01:54 AM
Replies: 35
Views: 1,401
Posted By ariel
My point is that I cannot find anything that...

My point is that I cannot find anything that would not be compatible with a 100% Georgian origin.
Can somebody point it out to me?
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 28th June 2020, 12:09 AM
Replies: 12
Views: 1,286
Posted By ariel
Generally, Caucasian bladesmiths did not work...

Generally, Caucasian bladesmiths did not work with wootz at all. The exception to the rule was Geurk Eliarov ( Elizarov, Elizarashvili) who used Indian ingots and very questionably, his son...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 27th June 2020, 05:01 PM
Replies: 35
Views: 1,401
Posted By ariel
OsobistGB: “but the Persian influence is...

OsobistGB:

“but the Persian influence is obvious!”

———————————-

Can you elaborate what particular features you view as specifically and obviously Persian?
Thanks.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 27th June 2020, 04:39 AM
Replies: 35
Views: 1,401
Posted By ariel
Kai, You hit the nail on the head: every variety...

Kai,
You hit the nail on the head: every variety of mechanical Damascus is a product of mixing/ twisting chunks of steel with different carbon content. Suffice it to take a book by Manfred Sachse...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 27th June 2020, 01:46 AM
Replies: 4
Views: 414
Posted By ariel
I see KKK on the handle, Katipunan, established...

I see KKK on the handle, Katipunan, established in 1892. Thus, the bolo can be dated to the end of 19th century at the latest.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 26th June 2020, 06:28 PM
Replies: 35
Views: 1,401
Posted By ariel
By the way, Rivkin mentioned the similarity of...

By the way, Rivkin mentioned the similarity of the “Tiflis zigzag” with some Indian mechanical damascus patterns and noted the presence of Indian merchants and armorers in Tiflis.
Surprisingly, one...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 26th June 2020, 06:06 PM
Replies: 35
Views: 1,401
Posted By ariel
Re. Armenian armorers. The majority of them...

Re. Armenian armorers.
The majority of them worked as jewelers, Papov being the ultimate example. Blades were mainly produced by Daghestani and Tiflis masters and sold to workshops.
There are some...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 26th June 2020, 05:50 PM
Replies: 28
Views: 5,326
Posted By ariel
I am reviving this topic to point out a dramatic...

I am reviving this topic to point out a dramatic change in Georgian weapons that occurred over the past several years.

Originally, in the 1990s, contemporary Georgian dealers were able to sell...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 26th June 2020, 02:07 PM
Replies: 35
Views: 1,401
Posted By ariel
Here are examples of 2 Gurian kindjals with...

Here are examples of 2 Gurian kindjals with Tiflis Zigzag within the fullers.
Is yours similar?
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 26th June 2020, 01:37 PM
Replies: 18
Views: 728
Posted By ariel
Gavin’s mention of Hale’s book was very...

Gavin’s mention of Hale’s book was very helpful.
For additional example from the same source see p. 222, #542: a rare Algerian kilij. Regretfully, no view of the entire blade and no dimensions. ...
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