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Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 15th September 2018, 10:41 PM
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Posted By David
Thanks Sirek. I was immediately put in mind of...

Thanks Sirek. I was immediately put in mind of this thread when i saw mteuthof's post, but i couldn't find it. :)
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 14th September 2018, 12:37 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 340
Posted By David
Well Jean, i agree that this pesi isn't actually...

Well Jean, i agree that this pesi isn't actually "square" which is why i keep referring to it as "squared off".
Your gana example is nice, though the particular photo you posted does not actually...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 14th September 2018, 12:32 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 340
Posted By David
Yes Paul, i had assumed the greneng are simply...

Yes Paul, i had assumed the greneng are simply worn down over time.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 13th September 2018, 01:42 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 340
Posted By David
Also wondering what folks think of the...

Also wondering what folks think of the "mendak" in place. It seems too small to refer to as a pendokok. It seems out of place in this ensemble and if this were mine i would probably seek to replace...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 13th September 2018, 01:40 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 340
Posted By David
I am surprised we aren't getting more comments on...

I am surprised we aren't getting more comments on this squared off pesi. I certainly isn't unheard of, but it is unusual.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 12th September 2018, 06:10 AM
Replies: 11
Views: 340
Posted By David
Nice example Sirek. I'm not surprised to see no...

Nice example Sirek.
I'm not surprised to see no pamor as that seems normal for most older examples of these.
The squared off pesi seems pretty unusual though.
Is the hilt wood or horn?
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 2nd September 2018, 05:37 PM
Replies: 18
Views: 663
Posted By David
Well, my understanding of traditional East Jawa...

Well, my understanding of traditional East Jawa mendaks is that that they are generally plainer and not usually bejeweled.
I could be wrong, but i would place #18 as Jogyakarta. :shrug:
Of course,...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 1st September 2018, 03:38 PM
Replies: 18
Views: 663
Posted By David
I agree Jean. Here are some mendaks that were...

I agree Jean. Here are some mendaks that were presented here a while back as East Jawa.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 29th August 2018, 02:26 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 406
Posted By David
I would agree with you Alan, though i am certain...

I would agree with you Alan, though i am certain i form my opinion from a far less informed position. Could you possibly elaborate a little on your opinion here? I think it would be beneficial to all...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 28th August 2018, 05:18 PM
Replies: 18
Views: 663
Posted By David
Well, i don't think that it is too important...

Well, i don't think that it is too important whether or not this wrongko was made during the Mataram/Kartosuro period or not, it is still a nice example of a fairly rare Javanese keris sheath and...
Forum: Swap Forum 25th August 2018, 08:57 PM
Replies: 2
Views: 768
Posted By David
Item has been sold. Thanks for looking. :)

Item has been sold. Thanks for looking. :)
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 22nd August 2018, 09:50 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 676
Posted By David
And just to bring all things back to the keris,...

And just to bring all things back to the keris, which is, i believe we can all agree, the context for what we discuss here, the point Alan is making about understanding the keris, and by extension...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 22nd August 2018, 02:55 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 676
Posted By David
Ariel, if you have not read "Visible and...

Ariel, if you have not read "Visible and Invisible Realms: Power, Magic, and Colonial Conquest in Bali" by Margret Wiener i would highly recommend you give it a go. One thing that becomes really...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 22nd August 2018, 02:28 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 676
Posted By David
My humblest apologies Ariel. You are indeed...

My humblest apologies Ariel. You are indeed correct that the word "analyical" does appear once in this article. The reason i passed it over may seem odd, but it is actually because that particular...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 22nd August 2018, 01:34 AM
Replies: 11
Views: 676
Posted By David
Actually Ariel, unless i have developed some kind...

Actually Ariel, unless i have developed some kind of block and have simply missed it despite numerous readings i cannot find the place in this article where it claims that Western individualistic...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 20th August 2018, 07:18 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 676
Posted By David
Ariel, i believe what Alan (as well as this...

Ariel, i believe what Alan (as well as this article) is talking about is cultural differences, not racial ones. If someone of Javanese racial origin was born and raised within the American cultural...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 17th August 2018, 03:59 PM
Replies: 23
Views: 748
Posted By David
Yes indeed, and this is why i continued watching...

Yes indeed, and this is why i continued watching even after the lecturer made a few comments that i disagreed with. It seems a bit hasty to dimiss this entire lecture simply because i disagree with a...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 17th August 2018, 12:37 PM
Replies: 23
Views: 748
Posted By David
Hi Green. I would be careful about attempting to...

Hi Green. I would be careful about attempting to read a tone or attitude into words written on the internet. In this case it seems that you have taken Jean's words "that way", but i see no indication...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 17th August 2018, 12:12 PM
Replies: 23
Views: 748
Posted By David
Well, i don't want to belabor this debate about...

Well, i don't want to belabor this debate about language and i am indeed sure that you are correct Green, that these words such as "empu" and "warangan" are borrow words from the Javanese. However, i...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 15th August 2018, 04:08 PM
Replies: 23
Views: 748
Posted By David
Yes, i certainly noted that at times there was...

Yes, i certainly noted that at times there was more talk than words translated so i am sure i was missing parts of this. I was not aware that Empu Saras (Sarah) was supposed to be of Mojopahit origin...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 15th August 2018, 02:04 PM
Replies: 23
Views: 748
Posted By David
I suppose it might be difficult to definitely...

I suppose it might be difficult to definitely assess what the lecturer's deeper thoughts on keris origin are simply by watching these videos. I do agree with you Green that the vast majority of keris...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 15th August 2018, 03:06 AM
Replies: 23
Views: 748
Posted By David
Anthony, i believe it is generally accepted, even...

Anthony, i believe it is generally accepted, even to many Malay keris collectors, that the origin of the keris is not just Indonesia, but specifically Jawa. This gentleman apparently holds a minority...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 15th August 2018, 03:04 AM
Replies: 23
Views: 748
Posted By David
I noted that as well Jean and thought about our...

I noted that as well Jean and thought about our discussion not too long ago about whether or not warangan was a known practice in Malay keris culture.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 14th August 2018, 02:43 PM
Replies: 23
Views: 748
Posted By David
OK Alan, i made my way all the way through. I can...

OK Alan, i made my way all the way through. I can certainly see how aspects of this might come across as annoying to Javanese keris enthusiasts since this entire lecture seems to disregard the...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 14th August 2018, 01:56 PM
Replies: 23
Views: 748
Posted By David
As i stated Alan, i only watched a little bit...

As i stated Alan, i only watched a little bit into each of these to determine the direction of the lectures so i did not see anything offensive. I'll watch them completely through today and see if i...
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