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Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 4th April 2024, 11:20 AM
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Posted By Gustav
On Keris with Pamor Aiq Ngelek which I have...

On Keris with Pamor Aiq Ngelek which I have handled so far, the appearance of Pamor Miring in the middle of blade is created by the quite high middle ridge and the couple of mlumah layers contained...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 3rd April 2024, 09:18 AM
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Posted By Gustav
An online dictionary says, aiq means water in...

An online dictionary says, aiq means water in Sasak language.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 3rd April 2024, 07:09 AM
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Posted By Gustav
From memory, Pamor Aiq Ngelek does appear in Lalu...

From memory, Pamor Aiq Ngelek does appear in Lalu Djelegga's book, and could be a Sasak term.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 30th March 2024, 09:40 PM
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Posted By Gustav
It looks like the Gandar on Tegal Keris is...

It looks like the Gandar on Tegal Keris is backwards. If that is the case, you need to separate Atasan and Gandar to see if the blade fits.
Forum: Keris Swap Forum 12th March 2024, 10:07 PM
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Views: 851
Posted By Gustav
Additional pics of hilt :

Additional pics of hilt
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Forum: Keris Swap Forum 11th March 2024, 03:16 PM
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Views: 851
Posted By Gustav
A Tajong for sale

For sale an antique Keris Tajong fom Pattani state, condition is as found - cracks and chips on sheath, but everything is original.

The Pandai Saras blade is 36 cm long, overall length with sheath...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 27th February 2024, 06:48 AM
Replies: 44
Views: 6,955
Posted By Gustav
Alan, thank you.

Alan, thank you.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 26th February 2024, 09:15 PM
Replies: 44
Views: 6,955
Posted By Gustav
Alan, one last question regarding post #32. ...

Alan, one last question regarding post #32.

is Javanese Bancihan form equivalent to Balinese Jamprahan? Just because Lalu Djelengga and Pande Suteja Neka calls this form "Jamprahan, also Bancihan".
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 26th February 2024, 12:39 PM
Replies: 44
Views: 6,955
Posted By Gustav
Alan, I think, this carving at the end of Gandar...

Alan, I think, this carving at the end of Gandar survives also as the ornament at the same place on backside of some old Pendok.

My thought at the moment is, that this feature perhaps could have...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 26th February 2024, 12:36 PM
Replies: 44
Views: 6,955
Posted By Gustav
Alan, in my post #9, to which you referred in...

Alan, in my post #9, to which you referred in #18, I wrote:

"I have seen one old Branggah from Yogyakarta without Angkup, which was, so far as I can tell, in its original state."

In #18 you...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 26th February 2024, 11:48 AM
Replies: 44
Views: 6,955
Posted By Gustav
Alan, it doesn't wonder me at all, that people...

Alan, it doesn't wonder me at all, that people have formed an opinion about the similarity of Panataran carving to a Buginese sheath. Your picture was the first one where I clearly could discern the...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 25th February 2024, 08:31 PM
Replies: 44
Views: 6,955
Posted By Gustav
Alan, it is the Keris depicted together with its...

Alan, it is the Keris depicted together with its sheath and the well known dagger. Both were the heirlooms held in Pagarruyung (and still are?).
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 25th February 2024, 06:43 PM
Replies: 44
Views: 6,955
Posted By Gustav
The way how this Pasisir sheath is carved leads...

The way how this Pasisir sheath is carved leads me to think, that its front part could be original - the edges, or the "lip" are pointing downwards, at the same time have too much volume at the...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 25th February 2024, 06:36 PM
Replies: 44
Views: 6,955
Posted By Gustav
I didn't mean the Sesrengatan form, I mean this...

I didn't mean the Sesrengatan form, I mean this one, which is rare, but can be found from Eastern Java till Lombok.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 25th February 2024, 06:31 PM
Replies: 44
Views: 6,955
Posted By Gustav
There is a Keris from Yogyakarta, presented by...

There is a Keris from Yogyakarta, presented by Raffles to George IV when Prince Regent in 1813. There are descriptions, which add, it was taken in the loothing of Kraton a year earlier. I was able to...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 25th February 2024, 06:07 PM
Replies: 44
Views: 6,955
Posted By Gustav
These posts will be my response to points made in...

These posts will be my response to points made in post #18.



The sheath from Candi Panataran relief is very close, one can say, of the same type, as the sheath of Pagarruyung Keris. I will...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 21st February 2024, 09:21 AM
Replies: 44
Views: 6,955
Posted By Gustav
I have seen one old Branggah from Yogyakarta...

I have seen one old Branggah from Yogyakarta without Angkup, which was, so far as I can tell, in its original state. I own one from Pasisir. There is a Balinese form of such Wrongko, and there is a...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 16th January 2024, 02:57 PM
Replies: 25
Views: 4,236
Posted By Gustav
Alan, I asked that question about Adeg Wengkon or...

Alan, I asked that question about Adeg Wengkon or Wengkon being given to newly appointed Bupati, because some time ago you wrote:

"In olden times the Susuhunan of Surakarta would usually give a...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 11th January 2024, 11:02 PM
Replies: 25
Views: 4,236
Posted By Gustav
Just a question: is Wengkon or Adeg Wengkon the...

Just a question: is Wengkon or Adeg Wengkon the Pamor of Keris given to newly appointed Bupati in the past?

Adeg Wengkon is Adeg Wengkon also in KJ book.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 10th January 2024, 02:54 PM
Replies: 25
Views: 4,236
Posted By Gustav
And in Gronemans article in van Duuren's...

And in Gronemans article in van Duuren's redaction, p.81, after excerpt with Winter's Pamor designs, which include Wengkon, there is a mention of Tepen:

"In an enumeration of seventeen pamor...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 10th January 2024, 10:28 AM
Replies: 25
Views: 4,236
Posted By Gustav
Regarding Pamor Wengkon: Winter, who came...

Regarding Pamor Wengkon:

Winter, who came from an old family of translators at the Keraton of Surakarta, uses the name Pamor Wengkon in his 1871 book, apparently for a true Pamor Wengkon.
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Forum: Swap Forum 11th December 2023, 08:55 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 2,963
Posted By Gustav
Item sold, thank you!

Item sold, thank you!
Forum: Swap Forum 10th December 2023, 02:36 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 2,963
Posted By Gustav
On hold.

On hold.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 10th December 2023, 12:01 AM
Replies: 17
Views: 10,098
Posted By Gustav
My home is my Puri!

My home is my Puri!
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 9th December 2023, 09:25 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 10,098
Posted By Gustav
Alan, I wonder if that is not Puri Anyar...

Alan, I wonder if that is not Puri Anyar Kerambitan.

https://www.nowbali.co.id/puri-anyar-kerambitan-palace-history/
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