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Forum: Ethnographic Weapons Today, 12:46 PM
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Posted By ariel
Roland, Turks actually encouraged production of...

Roland,
Turks actually encouraged production of weapons in their occupied areas. The entire Balkans during the Ottoman rule were a giant weapon forge. Not only did they manufacture “ Turkish...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons Today, 04:41 AM
Replies: 14
Views: 540
Posted By ariel
I would definitely agree that Ruel’s hypothesis...

I would definitely agree that Ruel’s hypothesis may have a lot of merit.

It would make very little sense that a large, militarily powerful and rich state like Egypt would not have its own weapon...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons Today, 01:03 AM
Replies: 4
Views: 99
Posted By ariel
Ian, First, thanks for the references and the...

Ian,
First, thanks for the references and the missing posts.

The lengths of blades:
Khazar 29.5"
Qipchaq 40.5" ( yes, this is no typo:-)
Both very slightly curved.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons Yesterday, 09:40 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 99
Posted By ariel
Nomadic swords, Part 2.

And here is most likely an example from the Qipchaq armamentarium.
This one is in an unbelievably well-preserved condition: the soil must have been highly "hospitable" for a 10-11 century...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons Yesterday, 09:29 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 99
Posted By ariel
Nomadic swords

Having read Kirill Rivkin's book about Eastern swords and a chapter by Bashir Mohamed in his Furussia book as well as having written a paper about the penetration of sabers into the Arab/Islamic...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 13th August 2018, 02:37 AM
Replies: 51
Views: 1,157
Posted By ariel
Even though the question was not addressed to me,...

Even though the question was not addressed to me, I would humbly offer my thoughts.

Legalistically speaking, both are Zirah Bouks.
But the black handled one seems to be a real fighting example,...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 12th August 2018, 09:17 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 395
Posted By ariel
I remember a claim by somebody that the mere...

I remember a claim by somebody that the mere presence of brass places the entire item in the 20th century.
This seems to contradict that hypothesis, doesn't it?
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 12th August 2018, 01:31 PM
Replies: 51
Views: 1,157
Posted By ariel
I found just now a wonderful example that was...

I found just now a wonderful example that was generously posted by Mahratt on a Russian forum : a 3-D photograph of a dagger from one of the Russian museums. It is defined as Zirah Bouk by the...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 11th August 2018, 10:23 PM
Replies: 51
Views: 1,157
Posted By ariel
Marius, Artzi never used " Zirah...

Marius,
Artzi never used " Zirah Bouk" as an adjective, ie Blue skies, Fat person, Tasty food etc. Thus, I am not sure that your proposal of : Zirah Bouk Kard", "Zirah Bouk Peshkabz" , "Zirah Bouk...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 11th August 2018, 08:39 PM
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Views: 1,157
Posted By ariel
Well, the original picture told the truth:...

Well, the original picture told the truth: instead of being flat along the entire length, the blade becomes diamond-shaped. This, with even a mild thickening, converts it into a reinforced one and...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 10th August 2018, 04:19 PM
Replies: 51
Views: 1,157
Posted By ariel
Well, as I said earlier, if the distant part of...

Well, as I said earlier, if the distant part of the blade is not thickened, it is not a Zirah Bouk.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 9th August 2018, 08:33 PM
Replies: 51
Views: 1,157
Posted By ariel
I have already asked Rumpel9 to tell us more...

I have already asked Rumpel9 to tell us more about this feature. If he says there is no reinforced tip suitable for mail piercing, you will be correct, and I shall be wrong.

Simple as that.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 9th August 2018, 10:39 AM
Replies: 51
Views: 1,157
Posted By ariel
Marius, Please read my post carefully: “ massive...

Marius,
Please read my post carefully: “ massive reinforced tip”.
Your example has a tiny pimple, no more. It is most likely a tourist version, totally unsuitable for the job of armor/ mail...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 9th August 2018, 05:33 AM
Replies: 51
Views: 1,157
Posted By ariel
...or Zirah Bouk. See Artzi's examples ## 5886...

...or Zirah Bouk.
See Artzi's examples ## 5886 and 7961.
Also, see one from the Met: https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/31537 ( Stone's bequest).
Although Artzi, G.C. Stone and...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 8th August 2018, 09:54 PM
Replies: 51
Views: 1,157
Posted By ariel
Marius: Well, please feel free to believe what...

Marius:
Well, please feel free to believe what you want.
One can selectively choose ones with T-spine or equally selectively choose ones without it and proclaim them either rare or commonplace.
The...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 8th August 2018, 11:29 AM
Replies: 9
Views: 424
Posted By ariel
It is Kurdish with Ottoman influence ( see...

It is Kurdish with Ottoman influence ( see terminal of the scabbard) and it is horn. Whether it is rhino or buffalo is difficult to be certain because of a worn-out surface and a single pic. Any pics...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 6th August 2018, 09:25 PM
Replies: 51
Views: 1,157
Posted By ariel
Glad we agree on the second dagger's handle. As...

Glad we agree on the second dagger's handle. As to the first one, IMHO it is also not original, but this is merely my IMHO, And even if this Zirah Bouk was born with this handle, the blade is also...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 6th August 2018, 09:08 PM
Replies: 51
Views: 1,157
Posted By ariel
T-spine? Here are Zirah Bouks with it.

T-spine?
Here are Zirah Bouks with it.
Forum: European Armoury 6th August 2018, 08:57 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 466
Posted By ariel
I fully agree: 100% British.

I fully agree: 100% British.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 6th August 2018, 12:30 AM
Replies: 51
Views: 1,157
Posted By ariel
As far as I remember, these strongly recurved...

As far as I remember, these strongly recurved examples and reinforced tips with sharp edges on both sides were called Zirah Bouk: mail piercers. You can Google the images. Pesh Kabz are as a rule...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 4th August 2018, 12:45 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 434
Posted By ariel
Yet another colleague is gone.... May he rest in...

Yet another colleague is gone....
May he rest in peace.

Having spent many years on this Forum, I have seen quite a lot of similar posts. Sad to read them and realize that the advance to the "first...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 4th August 2018, 12:37 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 516
Posted By ariel
Enlighten me: AFAIK, Indonesian Pamor is just a...

Enlighten me: AFAIK, Indonesian Pamor is just a variety of laminated materiel, not different in principle from a mechanical damascus. However, bright streaks of pamor are formed by nickel, whereas...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 4th August 2018, 12:28 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 324
Posted By ariel
It looks Turkish to me. Wild guessing, it might...

It looks Turkish to me. Wild guessing, it might have been even made there in toto: blade, handle and custom scabbard. I agree that it is not very old.
The bone/horn combination is a usual feature...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 3rd August 2018, 01:21 AM
Replies: 11
Views: 487
Posted By ariel
I would go straight for a 17-18 century coin. If...

I would go straight for a 17-18 century coin.
If there were a question whether coins imply authentic dating, one could easily argue back that the master might have used an antique coin from E...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 1st August 2018, 05:00 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 516
Posted By ariel
Verrrrry!!! nice.

Verrrrry!!! nice.
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