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Forum: Ethnographic Weapons Yesterday, 02:01 PM
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Posted By Jens Nordlunde
Jim, dont worry, as I do know that threads tend...

Jim, dont worry, as I do know that threads tend to change the subject after some posts. You should not have removed the pictures - I am sorry I mentioned it.
My comment on research was meant in...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 16th June 2019, 08:29 PM
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Posted By Jens Nordlunde
I think the thread has taken a turn where I will...

I think the thread has taken a turn where I will leave.
Jim could you please make the pictures a bit smaller, so the reader does not have to scroll a lot - thank you.
I am aware of, that some useres...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 15th June 2019, 03:45 PM
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Posted By Jens Nordlunde
I find the research of the names interesting, but...

I find the research of the names interesting, but what I find more important is the research of the weapons themselves.

I did some research of the katar (How Old is the Katar?), and I do hope that...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 14th June 2019, 01:25 PM
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Posted By Jens Nordlunde
I dont know which thoughts Pant had with the...

I dont know which thoughts Pant had with the plate, and it is too late to ask him,, but it seems to me that he called almost all 'katars' for jamdahar, with a few exceptions, so I dont see why we...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 13th June 2019, 03:09 PM
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Posted By Jens Nordlunde
Sorry for the late reply, but I have been away...

Sorry for the late reply, but I have been away for a few days.
Jim shows a katar and two coins, but it is known that the curwed side guards can be seen in the Hamza - so they go back for...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 1st June 2019, 08:42 PM
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Posted By Jens Nordlunde
This is not only about the names - it is also...

This is not only about the names - it is also about the kater types, with a straight blade or a curved blade.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 1st June 2019, 01:42 PM
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Posted By Jens Nordlunde
Robert Elgood in Rajput Arms & Armour, Vol....

Robert Elgood in Rajput Arms & Armour, Vol. II shows some childrens katars, and he gives the measurers of the cross bars as follows. 4.3 cm, 4.2 cm, 5.0 cm and 3.8 cm.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 31st May 2019, 02:53 PM
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Posted By Jens Nordlunde
Yes Ariel, the reasons for all the different...

Yes Ariel, the reasons for all the different names can be many.
Although Babur only ruled in India from 1526 to 1530 Baburnama tell us, that he amongst other things gave katars/jamdhars as gifts....
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 30th May 2019, 03:41 PM
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Posted By Jens Nordlunde
Unfortunately I cant help with an answer, but I...

Unfortunately I cant help with an answer, but I am surprised the no one has tried to help.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 30th May 2019, 02:40 PM
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Posted By Jens Nordlunde
A katar is a katar till......

This is not an invitation to start a new 'game of the name', but I find it interesting all the same.
In Arms and Jewellery of the Indian Muguhuls by Abdul Aziz a plate with weapons is shown from A'...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 29th May 2019, 08:38 PM
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Posted By Jens Nordlunde
Hmmm - may be.

Hmmm - may be.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 29th May 2019, 03:41 PM
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Posted By Jens Nordlunde
Are we now discussing patas, should they not be...

Are we now discussing patas, should they not be discussed on another thread?
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 26th May 2019, 08:25 PM
Replies: 48
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Posted By Jens Nordlunde
Cool Well I guess that you could always get one of the...

Well I guess that you could always get one of the 'common' katars from the armoury - but not a fancy one.
To get a fancy one, you would have to remember where you had hidden the treasure.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 26th May 2019, 08:14 PM
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Posted By Jens Nordlunde
Bob why dont you show us your katar? Yes the...

Bob why dont you show us your katar?
Yes the difference of the blades can be big, especially on the early katars, and it could be due to the different way they dressed, but as Henderly wrote, the...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 26th May 2019, 08:04 PM
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Posted By Jens Nordlunde
This could be due to fashion, or due to...

This could be due to fashion, or due to evolution, as I have others with big almost straight spikes. It could also be a question from where the sword came, as in some places they might have prefered...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 26th May 2019, 03:36 PM
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Posted By Jens Nordlunde
Cool Fernando, I think it worked both ways. The katars...

Fernando, I think it worked both ways.
The katars in the armouries were of a general size, but the ones with some money would have had it made to fit the hand.
Now, I also think that the Indian...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 26th May 2019, 03:10 PM
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Posted By Jens Nordlunde
The hilt attached, south India 17th century, only...

The hilt attached, south India 17th century, only have a short spike.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 26th May 2019, 02:11 PM
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Posted By Jens Nordlunde
Thank you Ariel, it is very interesting and you...

Thank you Ariel, it is very interesting and you explained it very well.
Maharaja Anup Singh of Bikaner (r. 1669-1698) is said to have had a gigantic brother, Padam(?) Singh, who for this reason had...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 26th May 2019, 11:18 AM
Replies: 48
Views: 1,409
Posted By Jens Nordlunde
Corrado, as you can see from the posts above no...

Corrado, as you can see from the posts above no one can really ansver your question, but why would a weapon smith make a katar hilt more narrow than the hand it should fit?
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 25th May 2019, 01:06 PM
Replies: 48
Views: 1,409
Posted By Jens Nordlunde
Fernando, it was my impression that your English...

Fernando, it was my impression that your English is better than mine, but we seem to be on the same level:p.
We have had this discussion years ago, and at the time I wrote, that if the Indians had...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 24th May 2019, 03:24 PM
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Posted By Jens Nordlunde
We can go on with this discussion for a very long...

We can go on with this discussion for a very long time, but the fact is, that the katars/tulwars have the grip size they have - like it or not.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 23rd May 2019, 03:26 PM
Replies: 48
Views: 1,409
Posted By Jens Nordlunde
I think this subject can be discussed well into...

I think this subject can be discussed well into 2025 - or longer.
A friend of Indian origin once showed me a bazu-band, and when I tried it on, and tried to close it I couldn't, but he could. I am...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 22nd May 2019, 02:46 PM
Replies: 48
Views: 1,409
Posted By Jens Nordlunde
Well Jim, I feel that especially in this case,...

Well Jim, I feel that especially in this case, slim is important, as an Indian can have hand as long as mine, but it is mostly slimmer.
Katar and tulwars would need a tight grip the way they were...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 22nd May 2019, 09:13 AM
Replies: 48
Views: 1,409
Posted By Jens Nordlunde
In this discussion I am not too fond of 'smaller...

In this discussion I am not too fond of 'smaller hands', I prefer slimmer hands, as their bone structure is finer than the Europeans.


The katar shown below is made for a child. Deccan early 18th...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 21st May 2019, 02:23 PM
Replies: 48
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Posted By Jens Nordlunde
The katar could have been made for a child or a...

The katar could have been made for a child or a young man.
In India many boys at the age of seven or eight had replicas of the grown ups weapons, and was trained in using them.
I have a number of...
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