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Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 12th January 2017, 01:25 PM
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Posted By Green
Many thanks Kai for the comments and...

Many thanks Kai for the comments and explanations.

If there ever was a pan Moro conf in 1920s that wouldn't last for more than ten minutes as I'd guess they'd start slashing each other with...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 12th January 2017, 10:06 AM
Replies: 27
Views: 32,056
Posted By Green
Thank you David. I'll look closely at the ganya...

Thank you David. I'll look closely at the ganya part when I recieve it, Looking at the pic again I think you are right.

A follow up Q is this. Do all 19th century or earlier blades have separate...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 12th January 2017, 04:52 AM
Replies: 27
Views: 32,056
Posted By Green
Kris with a repaired ganya?

I bought this kris from epray recently and the following pics are from the seller as I've not yet recieve it.The seller dated this kris as 1930 although some people I showed the pics to said it could...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 3rd January 2017, 03:09 PM
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Views: 60,799
Posted By Green
I am new to Kerisology and my info may be...

I am new to Kerisology and my info may be disputed. But as a malay myself and come from Kelantan Malaysia (which is basically culturally and linguistically the same as the people from Patani/southern...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 31st December 2016, 03:34 AM
Replies: 37
Views: 31,120
Posted By Green
Gustav, Many thanks for the link! getting to...

Gustav,

Many thanks for the link! getting to understand it a bit better ( i think)...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 30th December 2016, 11:47 AM
Replies: 37
Views: 31,120
Posted By Green
Mr Maisey. i will try to get better pics...

Mr Maisey.

i will try to get better pics when I get back home in a few days time...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 30th December 2016, 09:04 AM
Replies: 37
Views: 31,120
Posted By Green
Ah... yes, Alan's explanation makes perfect sense...

Ah... yes, Alan's explanation makes perfect sense for this blade! Many thanks. I'm learning new things everyday!


what about the first blade I showed...would that considered some form of artifact...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 30th December 2016, 08:27 AM
Replies: 37
Views: 31,120
Posted By Green
i did think the same when i first saw it, but a...

i did think the same when i first saw it, but a couple of people who know about patani keris that I showed this to, told me it's a mark done purposely.

they could be wrong...or right...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 30th December 2016, 04:07 AM
Replies: 37
Views: 31,120
Posted By Green
Here is another example of talismanic marking on...

Here is another example of talismanic marking on my old pandai saras blade, which is not obvious at a cursory glance.

But if you put the blade at a certain angle in good light, you can see cross...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 30th December 2016, 03:10 AM
Replies: 37
Views: 31,120
Posted By Green
David; Belief attending to meaning of marks...

David;

Belief attending to meaning of marks and other belief regarding the history and background of the keris is one thing and can be exteremely subjective.

but the marks on keris is a hard...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 29th December 2016, 04:05 PM
Replies: 37
Views: 31,120
Posted By Green
from what i understood and been told the mark was...

from what i understood and been told the mark was intentional... looks a bit awkward it is true...

Jean;

Do you know what is the meaning and purpose of those golden marks on your keris?
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 29th December 2016, 03:05 AM
Replies: 37
Views: 31,120
Posted By Green
Show us your Talismanic markings on keris blades

I'm quite fascinated by markings that one can sometime find on some keris blades- Particularly on antique blades. These days keris makers make all sorts of marks on blades by copying old marks ...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 23rd October 2016, 02:05 AM
Replies: 34
Views: 28,846
Posted By Green
Thanks Rasdan for the opinion. I had a quick...

Thanks Rasdan for the opinion. I had a quick search in the old posts in this forum nd looks like Sumbawa keris has scabbards similar to Bugis and Malay peninsula ones.

Hence , if mine is probably...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 21st October 2016, 11:53 AM
Replies: 42
Views: 40,415
Posted By Green
i wonder why mr maisey would not want to comment...

i wonder why mr maisey would not want to comment on the blade whilst he probably had done so on other occasions on non javanese blades ? . it's not for lack of knowledge i am v sure!

as for me,...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 14th October 2016, 05:05 PM
Replies: 42
Views: 40,415
Posted By Green
i am a relative newbie myself but if i can hazard...

i am a relative newbie myself but if i can hazard a comment. the keris is over cleaned (always my pet peeve , this) into shiny surface, otherwise it is a very decent piece.

Where is the cross...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 30th September 2016, 08:13 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 11,941
Posted By Green
from linguistic standpoint 'ukiran' means...

from linguistic standpoint 'ukiran' means 'carvings.' in Bahasa Melayu (Malay) or Bahasa Indonesia... so ukiran could be on the hilt or the scabbard or anywhere else. hence ukiran is not synonymous...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 28th September 2016, 04:55 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 13,013
Posted By Green
Based on Rasdan's Dunning-Kruger effect graph, i...

Based on Rasdan's Dunning-Kruger effect graph, i can safely say that i'm currently at the 'valley of despair' phase. not least because the money is running out just when i think i can narrow my focus...
Forum: Keris Swap Forum 22nd September 2016, 05:49 PM
Replies: 0
Views: 4,004
Posted By Green
Wanted to buy: books on Keris and other South East Asia ethnographic weapons

Dear friends,

Help me build my ethnographic weapons library. I'm particularly looking for books (at reasonable price!) on South East Asia weapons particularly Keris, kris, and related weapons of...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 19th September 2016, 01:02 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 12,816
Posted By Green
when the subject of keris cleaning comes up and...

when the subject of keris cleaning comes up and the word 'steel wool' is used, i cringe!
it's the last thing I want to disagree with Mr Maisey whom I and everybody here consider an expert , but for...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 25th August 2016, 02:42 AM
Replies: 5
Views: 11,453
Posted By Green
Found at the Islamic Art Museum in Kuala Lumpur: but is this a mandau?

Saw this at the Islamic Art museum Kuala Lumpur yesterday. The scabbard is typical enough of a mandau but the blade is double edged towards the tip and the carving on the hilt is not what I've seen...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 9th August 2016, 07:44 AM
Replies: 8
Views: 13,035
Posted By Green
Maurice, it is 1cm thick at the base and 0.5 cm...

Maurice, it is 1cm thick at the base and 0.5 cm in the middle.But feels light in the hand.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 8th August 2016, 01:03 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 15,114
Posted By Green
regarding the script... if it's in arabic script,...

regarding the script... if it's in arabic script, it's a very bad scrawl... imagine a doctor's prescription writing. It's not legible at all and the writing is as though attempted by one who didn't ...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 6th August 2016, 02:14 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 13,035
Posted By Green
Maurice, Many thnks for the comments. I can...

Maurice,

Many thnks for the comments. I can now understand that It is not a nyabur , but what is it ? could it be just a mix and match item that people did to make a quick buck? I won't be...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 5th August 2016, 06:12 AM
Replies: 8
Views: 13,035
Posted By Green
Mandau/ Parang nyabur?

It's been quite a while since there are any posts on mandaus and related blades...

Here is one I obtained very recently. I was told that this is strictly not refered to as mandau but parang...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 4th August 2016, 05:46 PM
Replies: 24
Views: 23,721
Posted By Green
1) To answer Alan's Q about the correct spelling...

1) To answer Alan's Q about the correct spelling first... I am not sure which is the right spelling Coteng/Choteng cenok/chenok... modern spelling has done away with 'h' but the pronounciation is...
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