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Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 6th November 2007, 01:46 AM
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Posted By rand
Inscription

Hello Zefir,

Manouchehr who did the translation reads Farsi, it could well be as you suggest. Do you have an opinion about when this style of tugra is on a sword? I rather like you...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 5th November 2007, 07:03 PM
Replies: 23
Views: 20,723
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Am working on translating this, are there four...

Am working on translating this, are there four a's ( one vertical mark for beginning "a" and the three short marks on bottom for middle a's) and two l's?

rand
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 5th November 2007, 06:58 PM
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Posted By rand
Thanks Jens, This has been a fascinating...

Thanks Jens,

This has been a fascinating study. Overlaying the swords on each other was an eye opener.

One thing to note is that on the raised areas of design the steel is a dark color, in a...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 5th November 2007, 04:43 PM
Replies: 23
Views: 20,723
Posted By rand
Translation

Have been comparing top inscription to Islamic alphabets and am wondering if its says either "Allah" or " something Allah", your help is appreciated....

rand
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 5th November 2007, 12:34 AM
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Posted By rand
Sword Photo's

Sword Photo's.....
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 5th November 2007, 12:27 AM
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Posted By rand
Reference for design on kilij

Here is a reference for the design on the kilij, its on a sword at the Metropoliten Museum of Art that was made for Babur bewteen 1500-1526. The black and white photo is Baburs sword and Baburs...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 5th November 2007, 12:20 AM
Replies: 23
Views: 20,723
Posted By rand
Three swords in photo study

These are the three sword in the photo study above.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 5th November 2007, 12:16 AM
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Posted By rand
Gold overlay

Notice how thick the gold is overlayed in the design,
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 5th November 2007, 12:13 AM
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Posted By rand
Comparison of the three tip sections

Comparison of the blades front sections side by side
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 5th November 2007, 12:09 AM
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Posted By rand
Kilij compared to classic shamhsir

In this photo the kilij is laid over a classic shaped shamshir from the period of SHah Abbas. You can see how the curvature changes when the blades near their tips. The shamshir underneath has a...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 5th November 2007, 12:04 AM
Replies: 23
Views: 20,723
Posted By rand
Blade curvature photo study

This is a blade curvature photo study of the kilij compared to a very early shamshir blade with a shallow curve. The kilij sword is laid over the top of the shamshir on the bottom photo and the...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 4th November 2007, 07:18 PM
Replies: 23
Views: 20,723
Posted By rand
Whole sword photo

Whole Sword Photo

Overall length 35 &1/4"

Blade length 31"
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 2nd November 2007, 08:03 PM
Replies: 32
Views: 23,061
Posted By rand
Reference for back action lock

Hey Fernando,

Found a reference for the back action percussion lock and its stated that the earliest forms of this style date from 1835-1840.
...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 2nd November 2007, 07:35 PM
Replies: 23
Views: 20,723
Posted By rand
Early Islamic Signature

Is the signature or inscription readable? Is on an early Islamic blade.

http://earlyislamicsword.blogspot.com/


rand
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 2nd November 2007, 07:03 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 12,825
Posted By rand
Dot

Does the dot after the "141" have any signifigance?

rand
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 2nd November 2007, 06:03 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 9,359
Posted By rand
Dagger

Hey Alex,

This dagger being Balkan is a possibility, would line up with mid 19th dating if chape is one piece instead of two seperate pieces. There is quite a bit of wear on the scabbards throat...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 2nd November 2007, 05:03 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 10,882
Posted By rand
Tughra

Thanks Eftihis,

That was exactly the type of information I am looking for. Any thoughts on what the meaning of a Tughra on a blade is? Is it simply a style of design or would it imply something?...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 2nd November 2007, 03:37 AM
Replies: 9
Views: 10,882
Posted By rand
Tughra

Hey Battara,


What am wanting to determine is if the style of Tughra on the abobe yataghan is a commmen type used or uncommen.

What I think of as a stylized tughra is very commen on...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 1st November 2007, 09:19 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 12,825
Posted By rand
Mastic

Used to have a reference for the material used to hold tulwar hilts, cannot find it at moment.

But the material used was most likely mastic, a resin material grown on one of the Greek islands,...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 1st November 2007, 09:05 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 9,359
Posted By rand
Ottoman Dagger

Is always difficult to estimate age but can offer an opinion.

On the throat of the scabbard is a braided silver wire with a small section missing. This type of braided wire decoration have seen...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 1st November 2007, 12:46 AM
Replies: 9
Views: 10,882
Posted By rand
Tugra on Yataghan

Amal-e Mohammad Falae
Saheb Abdollah

Translation thanks to Manouchehr



Am looking for another yataghan that is published or a photo of with this style of Tugra....

Thanks,
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 30th October 2007, 06:15 AM
Replies: 32
Views: 23,061
Posted By rand
lock on Clavina

Correct me if I am wrong, but believe the type of percussion lock that is on the Clavina dates prior to 1835.

rand
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 30th October 2007, 06:13 AM
Replies: 32
Views: 23,061
Posted By rand
Turkish Rifles

Hi Steve,

Thanks for posting the photo's of the firearms in Topkapi Palace. They are both Turkish, the firearm below is a miquelet lock mounted on a Turkish stock. The rifle on the top has a...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 29th October 2007, 12:21 AM
Replies: 32
Views: 23,061
Posted By rand
Translation of Signature on Lock Plate

Have a translation now for the signature on the lock plate. Was told it was difficult to read, that is not to surprising when you consider the tallest letter is only about 1/8" in height and the...
Forum: Swap Forum 27th October 2007, 04:57 AM
Replies: 2
Views: 4,974
Posted By rand
Keris Sold

Keris Sold
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