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Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 26th June 2010, 12:18 AM
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place of alleged origin (Java) This is a...

place of alleged origin (Java) This is a much-debated point, some even pointing to India for the origin of the kris.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 25th June 2010, 07:33 PM
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Posted By tom hyle
I see an awful lot of kris sundang and barong...

I see an awful lot of kris sundang and barong with both types of cockatoo and with hoof handles. There seems no division as to blade, other than re asangs/bacas/clamps. The true cockatoo as I call...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 25th June 2010, 07:27 PM
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Posted By tom hyle
I didn't say they are a recent development I said...

I didn't say they are a recent development I said they are an aspect what I consider the full development, ie the most complex true expression of the type. The crest and beak crest are sometimes...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 25th June 2010, 02:31 PM
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Posted By tom hyle
A bit of a pain for you, perhaps, but IMHO it...

A bit of a pain for you, perhaps, but IMHO it should be a two-forum thread, and the keris forum would hook you up major detailed info, explanatory pictures, etc. It's not just for keris, but other...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 25th June 2010, 02:28 PM
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Posted By tom hyle
"Ellegance of Death?"

"Ellegance of Death?"
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 25th June 2010, 02:09 PM
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Posted By tom hyle
I'm a big-picture, flowing, sword-loving guy, but...

I'm a big-picture, flowing, sword-loving guy, but the Moro students and the "keris" crowd will probably, hopefully fill in a lot of details......
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 25th June 2010, 02:02 PM
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Posted By tom hyle
Is this the right forum? I think so, but can...

Is this the right forum? I think so, but can this thread by on the kris forum, too?
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 25th June 2010, 02:00 PM
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Posted By tom hyle
Please don't use the word malice. Death and War...

Please don't use the word malice. Death and War are mighty fine Gods. They are not about malice.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 25th June 2010, 01:58 PM
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Posted By tom hyle
kris may be held by pinching the blade, and many...

kris may be held by pinching the blade, and many have grooves for the fingers to engage. The kris becomes your finger, so to speak.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 25th June 2010, 01:56 PM
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Posted By tom hyle
In addition to the iron ganga many kris...

In addition to the iron ganga many kris (non-sundang) have a second, nonferous, round, drawn-on bolster that sits around the tang above the blade, below the handle (swords are spoken of in the "West"...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 25th June 2010, 01:54 PM
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Posted By tom hyle
It is traditional with collectors in USA to speak...

It is traditional with collectors in USA to speak as if the pommel on kris sundang were seperate from (and more interesting than) the handle. Usually if not always they are actually one piece of...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 25th June 2010, 01:52 PM
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Posted By tom hyle
Moro swords (including bangkungs sometimes for...

Moro swords (including bangkungs sometimes for instance) are sometimes bound to their handles by metal or fiber bindings that cross hooks or holes in the blade. These bindings are called asang or...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 25th June 2010, 01:47 PM
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Posted By tom hyle
Most kris have a round- or oval-section tang,...

Most kris have a round- or oval-section tang, sometimes twisted. Such tang is generally viewed as speciallized for thrusting. In this regard, and well as the flared base so good for parries kris...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 25th June 2010, 01:42 PM
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Posted By tom hyle
There is a penninsular Malay form of kris sundang...

There is a penninsular Malay form of kris sundang (Moros are a Malay group; most Malays, whether in the state of Malaysia, Philipines, Indonesia, etc. are moslems, or to say in Spainish "Moros" ie...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 25th June 2010, 01:36 PM
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Posted By tom hyle
Great! First off vis kris (I do not recognize...

Great! First off vis kris (I do not recognize any difference between the words keris and kris nor the swords, except as an internal variation of great complexity of which region is only one factor)...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 25th June 2010, 01:27 PM
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Posted By tom hyle
It's too bad so much important material is lost...

It's too bad so much important material is lost to study because its rightful owners have to fear such silly laws and official arrogance over who can own what or what is supposedly a crime or what...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 25th June 2010, 01:20 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 8,614
Posted By tom hyle
What kind of wear to the big flat end? What...

What kind of wear to the big flat end?
What kind of wear to the sides of the head?
What kind of wear to the narrow tip; does it seem original or cut-down?
pestles fids and weaving swords, oh my!...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 25th June 2010, 01:16 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 6,501
Posted By tom hyle
Well, it's pretty definitely a mortar. Looks...

Well, it's pretty definitely a mortar. Looks pestly; they came together? Vs a wooden pestle it was likely expensive material wise (would be cheaper now, probably though), and more work to make, but...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 25th June 2010, 12:29 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 9,317
Posted By tom hyle
Let me make predictions/questions The bolster...

Let me make predictions/questions
The bolster is either two plates or a single block with a slot. It is soldered to the blade (possibly with brass=brazed), though maybe pinned as well. Any pins...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 25th June 2010, 12:22 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 9,317
Posted By tom hyle
I vote North American specifically probably...

I vote North American specifically probably Mexican and definitely 1930s+ I see no Asian features at all?
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 25th June 2010, 12:11 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 14,814
Posted By tom hyle
Nice, true cockatoo handles (not the "fully...

Nice, true cockatoo handles (not the "fully developed cockatoo" that seems to me to actually represent a plant). Especially the ivory one, which is IMHO actually the full development of the cockatoo...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 25th June 2010, 12:08 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 14,814
Posted By tom hyle
The one in the middle appears to be iras ganga...

The one in the middle appears to be iras ganga (no seperate ganga; "not a true kris") Are we sure it's sheath is new/innappropriate? I think it may be penninsular Malay, actually (rather than...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 25th June 2010, 12:04 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 9,813
Posted By tom hyle
You say these things like they are drawbacks;...

You say these things like they are drawbacks; these plusses. Standardized art can be beautiful, but unique and dare we consider inspired art is the bees knees.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 25th June 2010, 11:53 AM
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Views: 8,880
Posted By tom hyle
Been thinking of picking up one of theswe pesh...

Been thinking of picking up one of theswe pesh kabzoids. I must save a bee lost in my house; gotta go.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 25th June 2010, 11:50 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 14,504
Posted By tom hyle
Wow I des[erately need a copy of that one, too ...

Wow I des[erately need a copy of that one, too :) Good luck, friend.
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