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Ascalon 27th February 2009 05:15 PM
Who is it?
 
Who is the "demon " hilt?
I am curious about who he might represent. Any ideas?
I have this kris since 10 years.

http://i64.servimg.com/u/f64/11/44/08/82/kriss-11.jpg

http://i64.servimg.com/u/f64/11/44/08/82/kriss-13.jpg

http://i64.servimg.com/u/f64/11/44/08/82/kriss110.jpg

Regards
Emmanuel

David 27th February 2009 05:51 PM
Very nice keris Emmanuel. But i have never seen this character before.

Sajen 27th February 2009 07:20 PM
Hello Emmanuel,
beautiful Bali keris, special the handle. But like David I've never seen this guy before. Maybe a figural interpretation of the kocetan handles.

kai 27th February 2009 07:37 PM
Hello Emmanuel,

Welcome to the forum!

I also think this is a later "devolution" of the kocet-kocetan hilt based on the common misunderstanding that it represents a horse...
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=5909

The blade doesn't seem to be etched in Bali style - Lombok with a bit of Bugis influence?

Regards,
Kai

David 27th February 2009 07:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sajen
Hello Emmanuel,
beautiful Bali keris, special the handle. But like David I've never seen this guy before. Maybe a figural interpretation of the kocetan handles.
Possibly, but with that hair (mane) it looks distinctly more horse-like.
:shrug:

Sajen 27th February 2009 08:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by David
Possibly, but with that hair (mane) it looks distinctly more horse-like.
:shrug:

I think that Kai give the answer.
sajen

David 28th February 2009 04:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kai
The blade doesn't seem to be etched in Bali style - Lombok with a bit of Bugis influence?
I agree with Lombok, but i don't see the Bugis influence. :confused:

David 28th February 2009 04:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kai
I also think this is a later "devolution" of the kocet-kocetan hilt based on the common misunderstanding that it represents a horse...
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=5909
Perhaps. Still i see very little stylistic links to the kocet-kocetan. The posture is different, there are "human" legs and arms and an object is held in the hands. Horses are a common theme in Madurese hilts so it doesn't seem too far fetched that a horse theme was the original intent here as well. :shrug:


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