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hideyoshi 22nd February 2009 03:27 AM

moro pics.
 
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here are the weapons i acquired recently. thanks to a forum member for the nice panabas. enjoy.

Battara 22nd February 2009 05:07 AM

W :eek: W! Twistcore out the wazoo!

More pictures please! :D

Ferguson 22nd February 2009 10:22 AM

My goodness. Those are amazing. Yes, more pictures when it's convenient.
Steve

hideyoshi 22nd February 2009 03:25 PM

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this is a close up shot taken from the panabas. comments on the construction of this blade gentleman? great day, and thnk you all.

kino 22nd February 2009 04:47 PM

Beautiful!

VVV 22nd February 2009 04:53 PM

Fantastic!
I am also really curious what XXXXXXX got when you swapped for the Panabas?

Michael

Battara 22nd February 2009 07:18 PM

double twist core - good for taking impact stress and good for looks when etched. Not too common of a construction for Moro pieces. They also seem to be on earlier pieces and not seen so much on later pieces.

What about those kris and barongs?

Dimasalang 23rd February 2009 06:57 AM

Wow!! That is sweet! :D :eek:

asomotif 24th February 2009 12:51 PM

Nice blades !

Interesting pommel on the left moro kris. (the round pommel)

Can we see a close up of that one ?

Best regards,
Willem

rand 24th February 2009 05:15 PM

Am in total agreement with all the above comments, those are three amazing examples of metalwork. Congragulations on you new acquisitions!!!

Hubba,

rand

hideyoshi 25th February 2009 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by asomotif
Nice blades !

Interesting pommel on the left moro kris. (the round pommel)

Can we see a close up of that one ?

Best regards,
Willem



additional photos. enjoy

asomotif 26th February 2009 11:44 AM

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additional photos. enjoy


Thanks ! is it wood with ivory inlay ?

Is this a certain style / region ?

Best regards,
Willem

hideyoshi 26th February 2009 04:20 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by asomotif
Thanks ! is it wood with ivory inlay ?

Is this a certain style / region ?

Best regards,
Willem



willem, the handle is made of horn and i think bone inlay. not sure of the region, may be jolo,sulu? just got this blade two weeks ago. let me do some reseach to be more certain. thnks

hideyoshi 11th June 2009 07:53 PM

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new addition to the family...enjoy

kino 12th June 2009 02:01 AM

Nice addition. Congrats.
Does the Kris with the fewer waves have a twist core blade?

hideyoshi 12th June 2009 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by kino
Nice addition. Congrats.
Does the Kris with the fewer waves have a twist core blade?



Thanks Kino. Congrats to you as well on your new Kris with scimitar blade, that's a real beauty. In regards to your question on the fullered Kris, I have not touched the blade, but it appears no sign of central twist core or what so ever. It would have been nice if it did.

ferrylaki 12th June 2009 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by hideyoshi
new addition to the family...enjoy


very nice collection. congratulation to you. I really love them

hideyoshi 13th June 2009 02:52 AM

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very nice collection. congratulation to you. I really love them




Thanks for the compliment.
Here is my complete happy family! enjoy.

hideyoshi 1st July 2009 10:46 PM

Sulu Moro Kris
 
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Beautiful Sulu Kris,.. newest acquisition..

hideyoshi 1st July 2009 10:48 PM

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variations of moro twistcore pammor.....

hideyoshi 1st July 2009 10:52 PM

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and more....

Andrew 2nd July 2009 12:38 AM

Wow. I don't recall ever seeing a double twist-core panabas before. Absolutey lovely.

Thanks for sharing. :cool:

Battara 2nd July 2009 01:54 AM

Did you get this recent piece from Ashoka Arts? Nice piece.

hideyoshi 2nd July 2009 02:27 AM

[QUOTE=Battara]Did you get this recent piece from Ashoka Arts? Nice piece.[/QUOTE]


Yes, the recent twistcore kris was from Stefan @ Ashoka Arts.



[QOUTE=Andrew]Wow. I don't recall ever seeing a double twist-core panabas before. Absolutey lovely.

Thanks for sharing.




Thanks for the compliment, Andrew. And btw, welcome back....

Ferguson 2nd July 2009 01:42 PM

Incredible pieces. Could you please post pics of your Gunongs?
Thanks!
Steve

hideyoshi 2nd July 2009 06:50 PM

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Incredible pieces. Could you please post pics of your Gunongs?
Thanks!
Steve




Steve (Gunong Guru), here are the three gunongs in my collections per your request. thnks.

CharlesS 3rd July 2009 01:20 AM

Is that twist core pattern in the kriss etched after the forging?...in other words can you feel it as in 3-D??

If so it may not be true twist core but etched to imitate it. I have never seen true twist core hold so perfectly within two lines. This is a VERY difficult forging feat. It is also possible the the twistcore pattern was etched AFTER the forging.

hideyoshi 3rd July 2009 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by CharlesS
Is that twist core pattern in the kriss etched after the forging?...in other words can you feel it as in 3-D??

If so it may not be true twist core but etched to imitate it. I have never seen true twist core hold so perfectly within two lines. This is a VERY difficult forging feat. It is also possible the the twistcore pattern was etched AFTER the forging.




Hello Charles, you are absolutely right, the forging flaws on the blade of this kris is so minimal to none, compare to the twist core Moro krises that I have seen. The texture of the central twist core pattern is, as you said, as if in 3-Dís, you can feel the pattern when you touch it. My other twist cores blades though are the same, as if the were soaked in ferric acid for quite sometime, very topographic.

I have a hypothetical question. Let say that this kris was built in late 19th C. or say, 20th C. turn of the Century though it seems that most this Moro twist core krises are from 19th C or earlier. What are the possibilities of this twist core blades being imitated/duplicated at that period of time?

hideyoshi 14th September 2009 11:45 PM

Barong
 
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enjoy.

Battara 15th September 2009 01:40 AM

Nice barong. The pommel style of the ivory one is unusual.....


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