Beautiful karabelas and more. real or fake?
 

hi. these are offered as all antique, white hilts to be ivory, blacks to be horn, most of the mountings to be silver, some blades to be engraved in Arabic etc.. I wonder your comments , but unfortunately these pictures to be the only sources available.

With those photos as the sole source of information, I doubt anyone can answer your question, erlikhan. :(

Careful, Erlik. Those images were all taken from Petrasch's Die Karlsruher Turkenbeute, the catalogue of a fine collection of Ottoman items in Germany. They were collected after the last siege of Vienna in 1683.

Sincerely,

Ham

ham, You are correct.
Further informations/items can be seen here:



Best regards, Helge

lol! thank you very much. perhaps thats why they are offered with N/R? :D :eek: :D at least it helped me to reach a good online source on the arms which I which i wished to see. The booty from 2nd. Vienna siege.

Good that Ham recognized the items; the photos probably weren't such as to distinguish from. I do see an interesting thing though. On the blade of the first sword is a transverse (crossways) dark line. this line forms the center of a "w" in the blade, which is best seen by looking along it. I don't know if this indicates a possibly repaired damage, or a paper-seam in a book used as source for the picture. Something to look at. These auctions with stolen pictures of items the seller doesn't own are scary; caveat emptor, indeed :mad:

I'm going to lock this thread temporarily so that the staff may discuss how (if) forum policies on active auctions and photos apply.

I'm afraid this thread will remain locked. I have removed the auction photos and link.

Everyone, please read the Rules thread, and pay particular attention to the section prohibiting the discussion of active auctions.