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erikscollectables 22nd December 2008 09:06 PM

Opinions please? Sajen kudi / Keris Barong / Bugis keris
 
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I have been collecting krisses for the last few years.
Recently I got a nice buy, three very interesting items at once.
Would like to hear your opinions about age and more if possible.
They come from an old collection (where they obviously where not kept well) but they came to the Netherlands before 1940....

Sajen Kudi? Not my field so would like to hear more

Keris Singa Barong (interesting mendak/selut?) that might be madjipahit period?

Bugis Keris, rather small with an (marine?) ivory handle with obvious damage but very nice nevertheless.

kai 24th December 2008 12:47 AM

Hello Erik,

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Sajen Kudi? Not my field so would like to hear more
This form of keris sajen is usually called cundrik. Here's a nice overview from Alan: http://kerisattosanaji.com/kerissajen.html .


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Bugis Keris, rather small with an (marine?) ivory handle with obvious damage but very nice nevertheless.
Bugis influence but the blade looks Sumatran to me.

Regards,
Kai

erikscollectables 24th December 2008 08:58 AM

Thanks Kai
 
Very interesting website which I did not know yet.
Very nice.

Indeed maybe not Bugis but Sumatran.
In both cases it is quite small which makes Sumatra a bit more likely I guess.

Thanks, Erik

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Originally Posted by kai
Hello Erik,


This form of keris sajen is usually called cundrik. Here's a nice overview from Alan: http://kerisattosanaji.com/kerissajen.html .



Bugis influence but the blade looks Sumatran to me.

Regards,
Kai


BluErf 25th December 2008 02:19 AM

It's both Sumatran and Bugis. The hilt form is another indicator of Sumatran (Riau) origin.

erikscollectables 25th December 2008 11:42 AM

Thanks for the comment BluErf.

So you would say it is Sumatran (Riau) of origin but with strong Bugis influence?

Erik


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Originally Posted by BluErf
It's both Sumatran and Bugis. The hilt form is another indicator of Sumatran (Riau) origin.



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