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paolo 24th June 2007 10:07 AM

I got a kudi
 
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Hi all,
I got this kudi. The seller told :" the blade is not one of these lots of fakes..... it is antique". I like to have Your comments about the "antiquity" of the blade and on the whole item (I never saw a similar one), whose origin should be West Java (Java Barat).
Regards
Paolo

Lew 24th June 2007 11:08 AM

Hey guys

Didn't we get shots for them kudies when we were kids :eek: ;) :D


Very interesting dagger.

Lew

cahaya 25th June 2007 06:46 AM

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Hai Paolo....
nice colection....
but please beware...

this pictures just my ilustration.... (sorry i copy frm your picture)


thanks
cahaya
note:just for my study

Battara 26th June 2007 01:01 AM

Do you think this is a recent manufacture?

Alam Shah 26th June 2007 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Battara
Do you think this is a recent manufacture?

My first thoughts too. Reminds me of Valiant Co pieces... [ examples here ], [ more ]. ;)

However, the curvature of this piece is 'straighter' than the Valiant Co examples.

Alam Shah 26th June 2007 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cahaya
...this pictures just my ilustration.... (sorry i copy frm your picture)
note:just for my study

Cahaya, I don't understand what is it that you're trying to convey from your illustration? Please enlighten me... :confused:

David 26th June 2007 03:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alam Shah
My first thoughts too. Reminds me of Valiant Co pieces... [ examples here ], [ more ]. ;)

However, the curvature of this piece is 'straigther' than the Valaint Co examples.

My thoughts as well.

cahaya 26th June 2007 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alam Shah
...I don't understand what is it that you're trying to convey from your illustration? Please enlighten me... :confused:

Hi alam

... :D i dont understand too abaut what i'm doing , i'm try to imaging if i have spear (a big one) n try to make a kudi ..... :confused: ,..can i..?

Alam Shah 26th June 2007 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cahaya
Hi alam

... :D i dont understand too abaut what i'm doing , i'm try to imaging if i have spear (a big one) n try to make a kudi ..... :confused: ,..can i..?

I guess, it's possible to make one. :)

paolo 26th June 2007 10:09 AM

Surely my kudi looks similar to the Valiant Co, but IMO is of an higher quality. I know that with arsenic bathes is possible to have an older blade, but the pamor has a good patina, that doesn't seems dued to repeated washes. Also the wood looks old, but I guess newer than the blade.
Paolo

Newsteel 26th June 2007 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by David
My thoughts as well.

Me too. But I have seen it somewhere in a local keris shop, exactly the same with that macan (tiger) hilt. The blade sure looks thick.

kronckew 26th June 2007 11:51 AM

someone once told me that the ones with 5 holes along the spine were islamic, and represented the 5 pillars of the faith. the older ones had 3 holes, like this one of mine:
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...ew/kujang2.jpg
(came from an estate sale on ebay, listed as an 'ugly rusty old knife')

cahaya 26th June 2007 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kronckew
someone once told me that the ones with 5 holes along the spine were islamic, and represented the 5 pillars of the faith. the older ones had 3 holes, like this one of mine:

Hi Kronckew,..

yes you are right...

ni collection... congratulation...

asian-keris 26th June 2007 08:28 PM

kudi
 
Hi all,
Sorry but this seems to be a nice reproduction.
The blade texture Or patine looks be etched into the blade.
The dapur is not like the old ones. (to perfect holes and outlinings)
Nice but Modern sarong.
Gert-Jan

ganjawulung 27th June 2007 01:18 AM

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Dear All,
I've posted before, these pictures of kudi and kudi-daun (leaf-kudi) in another thread. I hope it is still useful for comparison. The kudi's sheath, is 20th century Surakarta's style with "sunggingan" (wayang ornamenting).

Ganjawulung

Alam Shah 27th June 2007 03:30 AM

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My broken Kujang Badak mata 3. Nothing spectacular... just for comparison. ;)
Also known as Kujang cengkok Mangku Alam.

ganjawulung 17th July 2007 03:38 AM

More Kujang or Kudi
 
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This is more comparison on kudi, or West Javanese people say as Kujang... Sorry for not cleaning it yet. I hope it is not wasting your time..

Ganjawulung


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