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Flavio 3rd January 2007 12:20 PM

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Hi all, here is another of my "end of the year" piece :) Could someone helps me with the hanlde: is bone or ivory (i hope ivory, but to me seems bone :o ). THank you

spiral 3rd January 2007 02:47 PM

Looks like deer antler thats been ground,sanded or otherwise worked down to lose most of its pattern.

So technicaly thats Bone.

Nice dha though!

Spiral

RhysMichael 4th January 2007 12:06 AM

I have trouble myself telling bone from Ivory in a picture but the above makes sense with the brown incursion into the handle. I also agree is is a nice solid looking dha

Flavio 4th January 2007 12:10 AM

Hi Spiral and Michael, yes could be, but i had never thought that a deer antler could be of this color!! Thank you

Valjhun 4th January 2007 09:11 PM

I agree, it is deer antler.

So tecnically it isn't bone but HORN :o))

Flavio I'll explain it to you in your language: e corno di cervo quasi sicuramente. Se levigato per bene perde il tipico colore marrone e le sporgenze.

Flavio 4th January 2007 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valjhun
I agree, it is deer antler.

So tecnically it isn't bone but HORN :o))

Flavio I'll explain it to you in your language: e corno di cervo quasi sicuramente. Se levigato per bene perde il tipico colore marrone e le sporgenze.


Thanks, but was already quite clear

Andrew 4th January 2007 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valjhun
So tecnically it isn't bone but HORN :o))

Actually, deer antler lacks the keratin structure characteristic of "horn", and is actually closer to "bone". :)

ariel 4th January 2007 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew
Actually, deer antler lacks the keratin structure characteristic of "horn", and is actually closer to "bone". :)

Andrew is correct: antlers are bones, not horns. They are composed of osteoid cells and even have marrow and blood supply.
http://animaldiversity.ummz.umich.ed...d_antlers.html

Flavio 4th January 2007 10:30 PM

Thank you Andrew and Ariel :)

Mark 5th January 2007 02:53 PM

One way to tell ivory from bone and antler is to shine an ultra-violet light on it. Ivory will glow a very bright quite, while anter and bone will only a weak fluorescense (plastice none at all, BTW). It is harder to distiguish under a dark patination, though, and such things as "bright" and "weak" are relative terms that are hard to quantify with known reference standards.

spiral 5th January 2007 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valjhun
I agree, it is deer antler.

So tecnically it isn't bone but HORN :o))

Flavio I'll explain it to you in your language: e corno di cervo quasi sicuramente. Se levigato per bene perde il tipico colore marrone e le sporgenze.

Antler is constructed of bone.

Horn is a keratin structure that grows over bone.

Spiral

Flavio 5th January 2007 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spiral
Antler is constructed of bone.

Horn is a keratin structure that grows over bone.

Spiral


Thank you Spiral :) Mark, i have to find an ultra-violet lamp, even if i think that could be antler :o


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